DG v The King
[2025] NSWCCA 137
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
Rowe v Minister for Immigration and Citizenship
[2025] FCA 805
Para 1
…y accordingly be reduced: Henry at [254]; Jiminez [1999] NSWCCA 7 at [23]; Tsiaras [1996] VicRp 26; [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; Lauritsen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [51]; Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255 at [23]; Pearson [2004] NSWCCA 129 at [43]. … 37. His Honour did not take the applicant’s mental condition…
Stobinski v The King
[2025] NSWCCA 97
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
Anane and Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs (Migration)
[2025] ARTA 822
Para 9
…ffending and reflected the community’s view of the seriousness of the crime.[75] [74] See Crimes Act 1914, s 17A(1). [75] See Lauritsen v The Queen (2000) 22 WAR 442, [52]-[53].…
R v COLLINS
[2025] NSWDC 107
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v Singh
[2025] NSWDC 52
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v Bowden
[2024] NSWSC 1428
Para 40
…sentencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40]-[48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43]-[51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35]-[45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]-[36…
Wass v Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia
[2024] WASC 391
Para 2
…short of insanity is concerned, the relevant principles have been enunciated in this court on a number of occasions, including Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442; and Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385. Counsel for the appellant also drew the court's attention to…
Kelly v The State of Western Australia
[2024] WASCA 116
…019] WASCA 44 Kosian v The Queen [2013] VSCA 357; (2013) 40 VR 335 Krijestorac v The State of Western Australia [2010] WASCA 35 Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442 Law v The State of Western Australia [2009] WASCA 193 Lee v The State of Western Australia [2022] WASCA 137 LJH v The State of Wes…
JP v The King
[2024] NSWCCA 96
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
Crane v The King
[2024] NSWCCA 87
Para 40
…r example, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40]–[48]; Lauritsen v The Queen (2000) 22 WAR 442 at [43]–[51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35]–[45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]–[36]; R v Verdins (2007) 16 VR…
Austin v The State of Western Australia
[2023] WASCA 191
Para 3
…State of Western Australia ;[19] The State of Western Australia v Khasay ;[20] IEB v The State of Western Australia .[21] [15] Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442. [16] Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385. [17] Krijestorac v The State of Western Australia [2010] WAS…
R v Ly
[2024] NSWDC 99
Para 1
…nry [1999] NSWCCA 111; (1999) 46 NSWLR 346 at [254]; R v Jiminez [1999] NSWCCA 7 at [23]; R v Tsiaras [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [51]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255 at [23]; R v Pearson [2004] NSWCCA 129 at [43]; and…
Cameron v The State of Western Australia
[2023] WASCA 149
Para 12
…short of insanity is concerned, the relevant principles have been enunciated in this court on a number of occasions, including Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442; and Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385. Counsel for the appellant also drew the court's attention to…
R v Luke
[2022] NSWDC 401
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
Wornes v The The Queen
[2022] NSWCCA 184
Para 40
…g: see, for example, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40]-[48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43]-[51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35]-[45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]-[36…
R v Barta
[2022] NSWDC 587
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
Police v Russell
[2022] NSWLC 11
Para 40
…sentencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [3…
Tran v Director of Public Prosecutions (Cth)
[2022] NSWSC 778
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
R v Black
[2022] ACTSC 4
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
Director of Public Prosecutions (Cth) v Ellis
[2021] NSWDC 517
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v Alferink
[2021] NSWDC 473
…CCA 207 Bugmy v. The Queen (2013) 302 ALR 192 De La Rosa [2010] NSWCCA 194 R v Engert (1995) 84 R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203 R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255 R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 R v Verdins [2007] VSCA 102 Courtney v R [2007] NSWCCA 195 R v Henry [2007] NSWCCA 90 R v Henry [1999]…
R v ROK
[2021] NSWDC 448
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
Nannup v The State of Western Australia
[2021] WASCA 140
Para 3
…hort of insanity is concerned, the relevant principles have been enunciated in this court on a number of occasions, including Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442; and Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385. Counsel for the appellant also drew the court's attention to th…
R v BS-X
[2021] ACTSC 160
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
Hiemstra v The State of Western Australia
[2021] WASCA 96
Para 5
…The State of Western Australia ;[5] The State of Western Australia v Khasay ;[6] IEB v The State of Western Australia .[7] [1] Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442. [2] Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385. [3] Krijestorac v The State of Western Australia [2010] WASCA…
Holt v R (Cth)
[2021] NSWCCA 14
Para 40
…: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [sic] [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
R v Pout
[2020] NSWDC 751
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v Paterson
[2020] NSWDC 416
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
Ak v Regina
[2020] NSWCCA 194
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40]-[48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43]-[51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35]-[45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]-[36];…
R v Johnstone; R v Kelly-Nelder
[2020] NSWDC 152
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v De
[2020] NSWDC 94
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v JP
[2019] NSWDC 750
Para 40
…R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] VicRp 26; [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
SBJ v Brookes
[2019] WASC 143
…ustralia [2014] WASCA 39 Gaskell v The State of Western Australia [2018] WASCA 8 KWLD v The State of WA [No 4] [2013] WASCA 185 Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203 Law v The State of Western Australia [2009] WASCA 193 Ninyette v Holmes [2015] WASC 287 O'Brien v Narang [2018] WASC 376 Paparone v The Queen [2000]…
R v Nikia Bamblett; R v Hunter Green
[2019] NSWDC 29
Para 40
…sentencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [3…
R v Peter Yealland
[2018] NSWDC 364
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…
R v Skinner
[2018] NSWCCA 185
Para 40
…sentencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [3…
R v Robert Nikolovski
[2018] NSWSC 1147
Para 40
…sentencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiaras [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] - [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] - [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] - [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [3…
R v Salim Mehajer
[2018] NSWLC 11
…7] NSWCCA 195 DPP(Cth) v De La Rosa [2010] NSWCCA 194 Einfeld v R [2010] NSWCCA 87 Lauritsen v R (2000) 114 A Crim R 333; [2000] WASCA 203 Miller v R [1999] WASCA 66 R v Doan (2000) 50 NSWLR 115; [2000] NSWCCA 317 R v Ehrmann [2001] QCA 50 R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 R v Hemsley [2004] NS…
Knox-Cumming v Macdonald
[2018] WASC 164
Para 8
…of Western Australia [No 4] [2013] WASCA 185 [127]. [11] Paparone v R (2000) 112 A Crim R 190; [2013] WASCA 127 [50]. See also Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203 [41]. See also Suleiman [62], citing Leach v The Queen [2008] NSWCCA 73; (2008) 183 A Crim R 1.…
Birch v Binnekamp
[2018] WASC 58
…2011] WASC 70 KWLD v The State of Western Australia [No 4] [2013] WASCA 185 Langdon v Kelemete‑Leoli‑McLean [2011] WASCA 26 Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442 Lewsam v The State of Western Australia [2016] WASCA 60 Medanovic v Barrett [2016] WASC 237 Moir v The State of Western Australia [201…
MacCauley v The State of Western Australia [No 2]
[2017] WASCA 65
Para 4
…tence to be imposed has been considered by the Court of Criminal Appeal and this court on numerous occasions. See, for example, Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442; Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385; Krijestorac v The State of Western Australia [2010] WASCA 35; Whe…
Kearsley v R
[2017] NSWCCA 28
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
Suleiman v The State of Western Australia
[2017] WASCA 26
Para 5
…tence to be imposed has been considered by the Court of Criminal Appeal and this court on numerous occasions. See, for example, Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442; Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385; Krijestorac v The State of Western Australia [2010] WASCA 35; Whe…
Waters v Wigger
[2016] WASC 377
…CA 273 Kere Kere v The State of Western Australia [2016] WASCA 189 Krijestorac v The State of Western Australia [2010] WASCA 35 Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442 Maric v The State of Western Australia [2015] WASCA 190 Milenkovski v The State of Western Australia [2014] WASCA 48 Mitchell v Pu…
LCM v The State of Western Australia
[2016] WASCA 164
Para 1
…short of insanity is concerned, the relevant principles have been enunciated in this court on a number of occasions, including Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442; and Thompson v The Queen [2005] WASCA 223; (2005) 157 A Crim R 385. Counsel for the appellant also drew the court's attention to…
Hanna v R
[2015] NSWCCA 326
Para 40
…encing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33] –…
JJ v Ryan
[2015] WASC 395
Para 4
…rment: Gok v The Queen [2010] WASCA 185 [54] ‑ [61] (Mazza J, McLure P & Buss JA agreeing); R v Wright (1997) 93 A Crim R 48; Lauritsen v The Queen [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 22 WAR 442. General deterrence still operates in such a case, but its effect is 'sensibly moderated': Gok v The Queen [59]. The significance of…
Environment Protection Authority v Alcobell Pty Ltd, Environment Protection Authority v Campbell
[2015] NSWLEC 123
Para 40
…for example, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40]–[48]; Lauritsen v The Queen (2000) 22 WAR 442 at [43]–[51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35]–[45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]–[36]; R v Verdins (2007) 16…
R v A (No 5)
[2015] NSWSC 670
Para 40
…ntencing: see, eg, R v Engert (1995) 84 A Crim R 67; R v Tsiarias [1996] 1 VR 398 at 400; R v Fahda [1999] NSWCCA 267 at [40] – [48]; Lauritsen v R [2000] WASCA 203; (2000) 114 A Crim R 333 at [43] – [51]; R v Harb [2001] NSWCCA 249 at [35] – [45]; R v Israil [2002] NSWCCA 255; R v Hemsley [2004] NSWCCA 228 at [33]…