Acisulu v Raiser Pacific Pty Ltd
[2025] NSWCATCD 72
Citation 1
…t approach was approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be…
Atlanta Building Pty Ltd v Abela (No 3)
[2025] NSWSC 730
Citation 2
(Para 21)
…to which good sense may be applied” then “justice does not dictate that … a figure should be plucked out of the air”: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at [14] (Gleeson CJ, Mason P and Stein JA agreeing). Where the events on which proof of loss depends occurred prior to trial, and can be proved with relative p…
Fraser Lyne Constructions Pty Ltd v Waba
[2025] NSWSC 600
Citation 3
(Para 70)
…In such a situation, “[j]ustice does not dictate that … a figure should be plucked out of the air”: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 14 (Gleeson CJ, Mason P and Stein JA agreeing). Rather, where “the evidence called by the plaintiff fails to provide any rational foundation for a proper estimate of damages…
MTH v State of New South Wales
[2025] NSWCA 122
Citation 4
(Para 247)
…ct against her, difficult and involves “a pragmatic exercise of a kind traditionally left to the good sense of a jury”: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 14 (Gleeson CJ, Mason P and Stein JA agreeing). The evidentiary foundation in the evidence set out above as to the balance of MTH’s work history permits a…
In the matter of Mobius Distilling Pty Ltd (in liq)
[2025] NSWSC 539
Citation 5
(Para 226)
…e for the reasons noted above, by contrast with the position where no rational basis for an assessment of damages is available: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237; McCrohan v Harith [2010] NSWCA 67 at [128].…
Gardener v Bright; Bright v Gardener; Bright v Gardener
[2025] NSWCATCD 23
Citation 6
(Para 83)
…However, the position has been clear for many years, as can be seen by what Gleeson CJ said in Troulis v Vanvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 ( Troulis ) at [14], namely that where there has been a failure to adduce evidence, “ then there is absence of the raw material to which good sense may be applied. Justice does not d…
In the matter of Bailey Roberts Group Pty Ltd (in liq)
[2025] NSWSC 227
Citation 7
…- Tomanovic v Global Mortgage Equity Corporation Pty Ltd (2011) 288 ALR 310; (2011) 84 ACSR 121; [2011] NSWCA 104 - Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 - Tyco Australia Pty Ltd v Optus Networks Pty Ltd [2004] NSWCA 333 - United Rural Enterprises Pty Ltd v Lopmand Pty Ltd (2003) 47 ACSR 514; [2003] NSWSC 910 - Va…
O'Shaughnessy v Jwland Group Pty Ltd (Appeal)
[2025] ACAT 10
Citation 8
(Para 3)
…approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be applied, “[j]u…
DTZ Worldwide Limited v AIG Australia Limited
[2025] NSWSC 12
Citation 9
(Para 168)
…terial to which good sense may be applied, “[j]ustice does not dictate that … a figure should be plucked out of the air”: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 (Gleeson CJ, with whom Mason P and Stein JA agreed); see also In the matter of Hair Industrie Penrith Pty Ltd, Hair Industrie Merrylands Pty Ltd [2015] NSW…
Opal Construction Group Pty Ltd v Christoff
[2025] NSWCATCD 127
Citation 10
(Para 71)
…Ltd v Bocco Developments Pty Ltd [2021] NSWDC 507; Construction & Design Australia Pty Ltd v Robinson (No 2) [2024] NSWSC 376; Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237.…
In the matter of 1derful Pty Limited (No 2)
[2024] NSWSC 1670
Citation 11
…million: contrast the position where no rational basis for an assessment of damages is available, recognised in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 and McCrohan v Harith [2010] NSWCA 67 at [128]. I consider that I can properly take a robust approach as to damages where the Defendants’ conduct took the business o…
In the matter of 1derful Pty Limited
[2024] NSWSC 1414
Citation 12
(Para 322)
…ess than $2 million: contrast the position where no rational basis for an assessment of damages is available, recognised in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 and McCrohan v Harith [2010] NSWCA 67 at [128].…
XJS World Pty Ltd v Central West Civil Pty Ltd
[2024] NSWDC 465
Citation 13
…terial to which good sense may be applied, “[j]ustice does not dictate that … a figure should be plucked out of the air”: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237. Likewise, in McCrohon v Harith [2010] NSWCA 67 at [128], this Court said that an estimate of damages, in the nature of a “guess”, should not be made where…
Resilium Pty Ltd v Nest Insurance Consult Pty Ltd
[2024] NSWSC 1190
Citation 14
(Para 97)
…In Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 28 Gleeson CJ (as His Honour then was) (with whom Mason P and Stein JA agreed) said:…
FE Accommodation Pty Ltd v Gold Valley Iron Ore Pty Ltd
[2024] NTSC 61
Citation 15
…d Developments Pty Ltd [2021] NSWCA 31, Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237, Barrow v Arnaud (1846) 8 QB 595, Bellgrove v Eldridge (1954) 90 CLR 613, Motor Accidents (Compensation) Commission v Motor Accidents Insurance Board (No 2) [2023] NTSC 71, Haines v Bendall (1991) 172 CLR 60, IM Properties Plc v Cape & D…
Carbone v Fowler Homes Pty Ltd; Carbone v Fowler Homes Pty Ltd
[2024] NSWCA 192
Citation 16
(Para 21)
…ish their loss and stated that the Court should not be left to “pluck a figure out of the air”, as Gleeson CJ had put it in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237. Finally, at [101], his Honour rejected the claim for exemplary damages.…
Singh v Rasier Pacific Pty Ltd
[2024] NSWCATCD 4
Citation 17
…t approach was approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be…
In the matter of Sunnya Pty Ltd
[2024] NSWSC 403
Citation 18
…] NSWCA 319 Termite Resources NL (in liq) v Meadows (2019) 370 ALR 191; [2019] FCA 354 Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Twigg v Twigg (2022) 402 ALR 119; [2022] NSWCA 68 Tzavaras v Tzavaras & Sons Pty Ltd [2023] NSWCA 168 VicBeef Holdings Pty Ltd v Chen [2021] VSC 546 Warman International Ltd v Dwyer (1995) 1…
Wan v Daoud Building Group Pty Ltd; Daoud Building Group Pty Ltd v Wan
[2024] NSWCATCD 39
Citation 19
…pproved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be applied, “[j]ust…
Pickett v Savage
[2024] NSWCATCD 19
Citation 20
…t approach was approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be…
Scozza v Jih Building Design Pty Ltd
[2023] NSWCATCD 120
Citation 21
…ate of New South Wales v Moss (2000) 54 NSWLR 536 Strogylos t/as Auto Clinic St Andrews v Vella [2020] NSWCATAP 156 Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Warner v Hung, in the matter of Bellpac Pty Ltd (Receivers and Managers Appointed) (In Liquidation) (No 2) (2011) 297 ALR 56 Texts Cited: Corones' Australian Con…
Milicevic v Ferrari East Pty Ltd (No 3)
[2023] NSWSC 1116
Citation 22
…18 ALR 543 Toll (FGCT) Pty Ltd v Alphapharm Pty Ltd (2004) 219 CLR 165; [2004] HCA 52 Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Urusoglu v MSU Management Pty Ltd [2011] NSWSC 54 Wardley Australia Ltd v Western Australia (1992) 175 CLR 514; (1992) 109 ALR 247 Watson v Foxman (1995) 49 NSWLR 315 Willett v Thomas [2012]…
T & L Alexandria Pty Ltd v Sharvain Facades Pty Ltd
[2023] NSWSC 947
Citation 23
…Australia Pty Ltd v Indect Electronics & Distribution GmbH [2015] NSWCA 343 Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Vopak Terminal Darwin Pty Ltd v Natural Fuels Darwin Pty Ltd (2009) 258 ALR 89; [2009] FCA 742 Texts Cited: B Edgeworth, Butt’s Land Law (7th ed, 2017, Thomson Reuters) J D Heydon, Heydon on Contract:…
Re SRD Property Pty Ltd
[2023] NSWSC 441
Citation 24
…c v Global Mortgage Equity Corporation Pty Ltd (2011) 288 ALR 310; (2011) 84 ACSR 121; [2011] NSWCA 104 - Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 - Varma v Varma (2010) 6 ASTLR 152; [2010] NSWSC 786 - Ventouris Enterprises Pty Ltd v Dib Group Pty Ltd [2010] NSWSC 963 - Vigliaroni v CPS Investments Holdings Pty Ltd […
Hoho Property Pty Ltd v Bass Finance No 37 Pty Ltd
[2023] NSWSC 411
Citation 25
…[122] In Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 (at 13) Gleeson CJ (Mason P and Stein JA agreeing) … held … there were “limits to the lengths to which a court may properly go in ‘doing the best it can’ to assess damages”. His Honour observed that the case did not involve damages which were “inherently difficult to…
KL Aussie Pty Ltd v Lien Hoa Women Buddhist Mediation Centre (Chua Lien Hoa) Incorporated (No. 2)
[2023] NSWSC 404
Citation 26
(Para 20)
…96 ALR 257; (2003) 77 ALJR 768; (2003) 19 BCL 431; [2003] HCA 10 at [38] (Hayne J, Gleeson CJ, McHugh and Kirby JJ agreeing); Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237; Strategic Communications Management Pty Ltd v Techfront Australia Pty Ltd [2020] NSWSC 847 at [95]; J D Heydon, Heydon on Contract (Thomson Reuters, 2…
Carbone v Fowler Homes Pty Ltd
[2023] NSWDC 29
Citation 27
(Para 94)
…s approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiligou [1944] 1 VR 237 at 243. It was also endorsed by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukalis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may…
Cully v Chaseling
[2022] NSWCATCD 191
Citation 28
…oved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] VicRp 16; [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be ap…
Warburton v County Construction (NSW) Pty Ltd
[2022] NSWSC 1281
Citation 29
(Para 19)
…8]; Schindler Lifts Australia Pty Ltd v Debelak (1989) 89 ALR 275 at 319; JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243; Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237; McCrohan v Harith [2010] NSWCA 67 at [128]; and Re Hair Industrie Penrith Pty Ltd, Hair Industrie Merrylands Pty Ltd [2015] NSWSC 1578 at [20], on w…
Maurtray Pty Limited v Pillemer Pty Limited
[2022] NSWSC 1181
Citation 30
(Para 535)
…Pty Ltd (2003) 196 ALR 257; (2003) 77 ALJR 768; [2003] HCA 10 at [38] (Hayne J, Gleeson CJ, McHugh and Kirby JJ agreeing); Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237; Strategic Communications Management Pty Ltd v Techfront Australia Pty Ltd [2020] NSWSC 847 at [95]; J D Heydon, Heydon on Contract (2019) at [26-100].…
Volkswagen Financial Services Australia Pty Ltd v Atlas CTL Pty Ltd (Receivers and Managers Appointed) (In Liquidation)
[2022] NSWSC 573
Citation 31
(Para 142)
…t was spent for the creditor’s exclusive benefit, and justice does not dictate that a figure be plucked out of the air: cf. Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237, 14 per Gleeson CJ (as his Honour then was).…
Selective Trade Pty Limited v Ferngrove Pharmaceuticals Australia Pty Ltd
[2022] NSWDC 131
Citation 32
(Para 261)
…value. However, there are limits to the lengths to which a court may properly go in doing the best it can to assess damages. In Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 14, Gleeson CJ said:…
Edwards v Caravan and RV Central Pty Ltd
[2022] NSWCATCD 26
Citation 33
(Para 88)
…mpensation or damages and that guesswork which goes beyond a rational assessment of value cannot be made (see, for example, Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 per Gleeson CJ, as his Honour then was, with whom Mason P and Stein JA agreed), in this instance weighing the available evidence, I am satisfied that it…
Carpenter v Morris
[2021] NSWSC 1700
Citation 34
(Para 255)
…estimate damages where the evidence called on behalf of the claimant fails to provide any rational basis for a proper estimate: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 (Gleeson CJ, Mason P and Stein JA agreeing); see also Placer (Granny Smith) Pty Ltd v Thiess Contractors Pty Ltd (2003) 196 ALR 257; [2003] HCA 10 at…
Zhang and Mills v JSW Property Projects Pty Ltd
[2021] NSWDC 655
Citation 35
…alia Pty Ltd v Debelak (1989) 89 ALR 275 State of New South Wales v Moss (2000) NSWLR 536 Troulis v Vamvoukalis [1998] NSWCA 237 Westpac Banking Corporation v Bell Group Ltd (in liq) (No 3) [2012] WASCA 157 Wardley Australia Ltd v Western Australia (1992) 175 CLR 514 Category: Principal judgment Parties: Crystal Zh…
Esquilant v Paypal Australia Pty Limited
[2021] NSWCATCD 49
Citation 36
…t approach was approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be…
Thalanga Copper Mines Pty Ltd v Cromarty Resources Pty Ltd; Cromarty Resources Pty Ltd v Thalanga Copper Mines Pty Ltd
[2021] NSWSC 640
Citation 37
…988] HCA 11 Tramways Advertising Pty Ltd v Luna Park (NSW) Ltd (1938) 38 SR (NSW) 632; (1938) 55 WN (NSW) 228 Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Texts Cited: P Herzfeld and T Prince, Interpretation (2nd ed, 2020, Thomson Reuters) J D Heydon, Heydon on Contract (2019, Thomson Reuters) Category: Principal judgmen…
Macquarie Publications Pty Ltd v Coles Supermarkets Australia Pty Ltd
[2021] NSWSC 405
Citation 38
(Para 174)
…reach the relevant conclusion. What cannot be done is to take a stab in the dark or pluck a figure out of the air. [54] 54. Eg Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 29 (Gleeson CJ).…
Splash Waterpark Pty Ltd v Tim Schnitzerling
[2021] NSWDC 62
Citation 39
(Para 110)
…In Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Gleeson CJ observed that where evidentiary proof of damages had not been provided:…
Stuart Klees v M101 Holdings Pty Ltd
[2021] NSWSC 182
Citation 40
(Para 123)
…of quantification stand in its way, justice does not dictate that a figure, even if it is zero, be plucked out of the air: see Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237.…
Et-China.com International Holdings Ltd v Cheung
[2021] NSWCA 24
Citation 41
…take a stab in the dark; ‘[j]ustice does not dictate that, in such a case, a figure should be plucked out of the air’: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 29 (Gleeson CJ).”…
Sabouni v Revelop Building and Developments Pty Ltd
[2021] NSWSC 31
Citation 42
(Para 42)
…t approach was approved by Brooking J in JLW (Vic) Pty Ltd v Tsiloglou [1994] 1 VR 237 at 243 and by the Court of Appeal in Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 where Gleeson CJ observed that, where damages were susceptible of evidentiary proof, but there was an absence of raw material to which good sense may be…
Mistrina Pty Ltd v Australian Consulting Engineers Pty Ltd
[2020] NSWCA 223
Citation 43
…or its consideration from time to time of its prospects. Justice does not dictate that a figure be plucked out of thin air: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 14. Termination was, of course, a possibility and the value of the opportunity should be discounted by the prospects of it.…
Pages Property Investments Pty Ltd v Boros
[2020] NSWSC 1270
Citation 44
…v Global Mortgage Equity Corporation Pty Ltd [2011] NSWCA 104; (2011) 84 ACSR 121 - Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 - Uszok v Henley Properties (NSW) Pty Ltd [2007] NSWCA 31 - Van Reesema v Flavel (1992) 7 ACSR 225; 10 ACLC 291 - Vanguard Financial Planners Pty Ltd v Ale [2018] NSWSC 314 - V-Flow Pty Ltd v H…
Strategic Communications Management Pty Ltd v Techfront Australia Pty Ltd
[2020] NSWSC 847
Citation 45
(Para 95)
…ational basis. Although the Court is required to do its best, justice does not dictate that a figure be plucked out of the air: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at p. 14 per Gleeson CJ.…
Woodhouse v Fitzgerald and McCoy (No 2)
[2020] NSWSC 450
Citation 46
(Para 392)
…cult to quantify" because they involve "estimating a risk, measuring a chance, or predicting future uncertain events": Troulis and Anor v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at [30]. Thus the court may have to do the best it can, to assess damages on the evidence led.…
Hurford Hardwood Kempsey Pty Ltd v Kempsey Timbers (Sawmilling) Pty Ltd (No 5)
[2020] NSWSC 287
Citation 47
(Para 52)
…ferent, but corresponding context, “justice does not dictate that in such a case, a figure be plucked out of the air” ( Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at [29] (Gleeson CJ). I do not propose to do so.…
Mistrina Pty Ltd v Australian Consulting Engineers Pty Ltd
[2020] NSWSC 130
Citation 48
(Para 72)
…, or its consideration from time to time of its prospects. Justice does not dictate that a figure be plucked out of thin air: Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 at 14. Termination was, of course, a possibility and the value of the opportunity should be discounted by the prospects of it.…
ET-china.com International Holdings Ltd v Cheung
[2019] NSWSC 1874
Citation 49
…Plan No 22014 (No 2) [2015] NSWSC 1920 Target Holdings Ltd v Redferns [1996] 1 AC 421 Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 Virgtel Ltd v Zabusky [2006] 2 Qd R 81; [2006] QSC 066 Westpac Banking Corporation v Bell Group Ltd (in liq) (No 3) (2012) 44 WAR 1; [2012] WASCA 157 Texts Cited: R P Austin and I M Ramsay, F…
In the matter of Act Land Pty Ltd (in liquidation)
[2019] NSWSC 1860
Citation 50
…122 In Troulis v Vamvoukakis [1998] NSWCA 237 (at 13) Gleeson CJ (Mason P and Stein JA agreeing) … held … there were “limits to the lengths to which a court may properly go in ‘doing the best it can’ to assess damages”. His Honour observed that the case did not involve damages which were “inherently difficult to qu…