Sailor v The Queen

Case [1992] HCATrans 46


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IN THE HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA

Office of the Registry

Sydney No S24 of 1991

B e t w e e n -

EDWARD COOKE SAILOR

Applicant

and

THE QUEEN

Respondent

Application for special leave

to appeal

BRENNAN J

TOOHEY J

McHUGH J

TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

AT SYDNEY ON THURSDAY, 13 FEBRUARY 1992, AT 10.27 AM

Copyright in the High Court of Australia

Sailor 1 13/2/92
MR M.F. ADAMS, QC:  Your Honours, I appear with my learned

friend, MR P. BYRNE, for the applicant.

(instructed by Arden Associates)

MR R.O. BLANCH, QC:  May it please the Court, I appear with

my learned friend, MR A.M. BLACKMORE, for the

Crown. (instructed by the Director of Public

Prosecutions (New South Wales))

BRENNAN J: Yes, Mr Adams.

MR ADAMS:  The Court will have appreciated that this is yet

another appeal that raises the applicability and

possibly the correctness of this Court's decision

in Johns. The matter has been agitated, I think,

last year in a number of cases but did not directly raise the argument in the way that we seek to argue it here. I wonder if I could very briefly refer to the facts and then sum up, in a couple of

sentences, what we say, with respect, is the real

question.

TOOHEY J: Could I just ask you this before you do,

Mr Adams? Something in what you just said might

suggest that Johns' case was under attack as

opposed to the application of that decision in the

particular case?

MR ADAMS:  No, we would hope
TOOHEY J:  I only mention it because it is not apparent from

the draft notice of appeal that that is in

contemplation.

MR ADAMS:  I see, Your Honour. I must confess that we would

hope to glide past Johns in the sense that we say

that we would rely on certain of the language used in Johns to make good our submission as to what is

really the substance of the common purpose

direction and confine the Johns' direction and observations to the two issues with which Johns was fundamentally concerned, namely, what is the effect
of a circumstance of the taking to a crime known to
all parties of a lethal weapon. We say lethal
weapon cases are on one side and Johns is one.
Secondly, the issue which we do not seek to agitate
here which is the probability/possibility debate in
relation to foresight of consequences where the
question is whether what is foreseen is the
intentional infliction of death or grievous bodily
harm. We do not seek to agitate either of those
two points. And I think that that is, if I may say
so with respect, what distinguishes the way in
which we seek to put this argument and the way in
which it has been agitated before this Court
recently.
Sailor 2 13/2/92
BRENNAN J:  What is the principle in this case which allows

you to glide past Johns, as you say?

MR ADAMS:  We say…

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This matter came before the High Court of Australia on an application for special leave to appeal. The applicant, Sailor, sought to challenge a decision of the Crown. The core of the dispute concerned the proper application of the principles established in the High Court's previous decision in *R v Johns* to directions given to a jury regarding common purpose.

The legal issues before the Court involved determining the scope and applicability of the *Johns* decision, particularly in relation to common purpose directions. The applicant contended that *Johns* should be confined to specific circumstances, namely cases involving the taking of a lethal weapon to a crime and the debate surrounding the probability versus possibility of foresight of consequences in relation to the intentional infliction of death or grievous bodily harm. The applicant sought to distinguish their case from the direct agitation of the correctness of *Johns* itself, instead arguing for a narrower interpretation of its principles.

The applicant's argument, as presented, was that *Johns* was primarily concerned with imputed or constructive intention arising from knowledge of a lethal weapon's presence. They sought to limit the application of *Johns* to such "lethal weapon cases." The applicant argued that while *Johns* contained general statements, its principal concern was the probability versus possibility debate regarding foresight. They submitted that the proper rule, supported by language in *Johns*, is that the possibility of an event identifies the act for which an accused might be criminally responsible, but the extent of that responsibility must then be assessed by reference to their actual intent. The applicant's submission was that the direction given in their case conflicted with this principle by potentially imputing criminal responsibility based on contemplation of possibility without sufficient regard to actual intent, particularly outside the context of lethal weapons.

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