The Conciliation and Arbitration Act 1904 An Application by O'Brien, Philip Anthony for an Inquiry into an Election in the Administrative and Clerical Officers Association, Commonwealth Public Service A Reference...
[1979] FCA 144
•11 Dec 1979
IN THE FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA
Industrial Divlsion
No. 37 of 1979
In the matter of -
THE CONCILIATION AND ARBITRATION
ACT 1904
And in the matter of -
And in the matter of -
A REFERZNCE OF SUCH APPLICATm
BY THE IYDUSTRIAL REGISTRABX
THE FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA
| Coram: | SHEPPARD J |
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
AT SYDNEY ON TUESDAY, 11 DECEMBER 1979, AT 10.15 A.M.
(Continued from 10/12/79)
| HIS | HONOUR. | Thls | is t h e de te rmlna t lon | of | a p re l lmlnary |
| p o l n t r a l s e d by | counsel | f o r one Paul Munro | t o t h e |
| j u r l s d l c t l o n | of | t h e | c o u r t | t o proceed | wl th | t h l s |
| l nqu l ry . | The | a p p l l c a t l o n | l t s e l f | i s one | made |
| pursuant | t o s e c t l o n | 159 of | t h e | C o n c l l l a t l o n | and |
| A r b l t r a t l o n A c t 1904. | The | a p p l l c a n t , | P h l l l p Anthony |
| OIBr len , c la lms | t h a t t h e r e has | been | an | l r r e g u l a r l t y |
| I n o r i n connection | wi th | an | e l e c t l o n | f o r t h e o f f l c e |
| of | f e d e r a l | s e c r e t a r y of | t h e Adminls t ra t lve | and |
| C l e r l c a l | O f f l c e r s | Assoc l a t l on , | Commonwealth | P u b l l c |
| Serv lce . | An | e l e c t l o n | f o r t h a t o f f l c e was | h e l d |
| pursuant t o s e c t l o n 170 of | t h e a c t on | 2 3 March | 1979. |
| M r Munro | was | t h e | s u c c e s s f u l | candidate. |
| Sec t lon 170 of | t h e a c t p rov ldes | f o r t h e |
| conduct , | a t t h e | r e q u e s t | of | an | o rgan lza t lon | o r a |
| branch | t h e r e o f , | of | an | e l e c t l o n by | t h e I n d u s t r l a l |
| R e g l s t r a r | o r a | deputy | l n d u s t r l a l | registrar | o r ano the r |
| o f f l c e r employed i n a registry. | Alternatively | t h e |
| I n d u s t r l a l | R e g l s t r a r | may | make | arrangements | wi th | t h e |
| ch l e f | A u s t r a l l a n | E l e c t o r a l | O f f l c e r | f o r | t h e | conduct |
| of | t h e | e l e c t l o n by | an | A u s t r a l i a n | e l e c t o r a l | o f f i c e r |
| o r one of | t h e o t h e r c l a s s e s of | person | r e f e r r e d | t o |
| I n s e c t l o n | 1 7 0 ( 5 ) . | The | e l e c t l o n was | conducted | by |
| an | A u s t r a l l a n | e l e c t o r a l | o f f l c e r . |
| The | c la lm made | by | t h e a p p l l c a n t 1s n o t based |
| upon | any complaint a s t o t h e manner i n whlch t h e |
| b a l l o t l t s e l f was | conducted bu t i s founded upon |
| allegations t h a t t h e New | South Wales branch of t h e |
| o rgan lza t lon unlawful ly | provlded assistance | t o |
| M r Munro | i n suppor t of | h l s campalgn | t o be e l e c t e d . |
| Sec t lon | 159(3) of | t h e | a c t p rov ldes : |
| Except a s provlded by sub-sect lon | (41, |
| t h l s s e c t l o n does n o t | apply | t o o r i n |
| r e l a t l o n t o an | e l e c t l o n | conducted | under |
| s e c t l o n 165A, | an | e l e c t l o n | i n o r i n |
| connexlon wl th whlch | a s t e p i s taken |
| under | t h a t s e c t l o n | o r an | e l e c t l o n |
| conducted under | s e c t l o n 170. |
| Sub-sectlon | (4) s o f a r a s it i s m a t e r l a l and | sub- |
| section | (5) a r e a s fo l lows: |
| An | a p p l l c a t l o n may | be made | under t h l s |
| s e c t l o n | i n r e s p e c t | of | an | e l e c t l o n | conducted |
under s e c t l o n one hundred and seventy of
| t h l s Act | i f t h e | a p p l l c a t l o n | i s made | wl th ln |
| t h e t l m e t h a t is applicable | under | t h e nex t |
succeedlng sub-sect lon and, where such an
| a p p l l c a t l o n | i s made | - |
| ( a ) | t h e | I n d u s t r l a l | R e g l s t r a r | s h a l l , | not- |
| wl ths tandlng | t h e nex t | succeedlng | s e c t l o n , |
| forthwith | r e f e r | t h e | a p p l l c a t l o n | t o t h e |
| Court and | thereupon | an | l n q u l r y s h a l l be |
deemed t o have been instituted:
(b) the Court is not requlred to proceed
wlth an inqulry unless it is satlsfled
that there is reasonable ground for the
applicatlon;
An appllcatlon in accordance with the last
preceding sub-section may be made -
(a) before the completion of the electlon:
(b) withln the perlod of slx months
commencing on the date of completion
of the election: or
(C) after the explratlon of that perlod of slx months but before the explratlon of the perlod of offlce to whlch the
electlon related,
but the Court shall not proceed wlth the
hearlng of an Inquiry upon an appllcatlon
made in accordance with paragraph (c) of
thls sub-sectlon unless the Court is
satlsfled that the person maklng the
appllcatlon dld not have, withln the
perlod of slx months referred to in
paragraph (b) of thls sub-sectlon, and
could not, by reasonable diligence have
acqulred wlthln that perlod, knowledge
of, and the means of establlshlng, the
matters that are alleged to constltute
an irregularity.
Sub-sectlon (2) provides, so far as it is relevant:
An appllcatlon under thls sectlon shall -
(d) be accompanled by a statutory
declaration by the applicant declarlng
that the facts stated in the appllcatlon
are, to the best of the applicant's
knowledge and belle£, true.
The undisputed facts are that the appllcatlon ltself was lodged wlth the Industrial Registrar on 21 September 1979, that is two days before thc
explry of the perlod of SIX months provided for in
sectlon 159(5) (b). It was not accompanled by a
statutory declaratlon by Mr O'Erlen declarlng that
the facts stated in it were to the best of his
knowledge and bellef true. Such a declaratlon was
however lodged on 27 September 1979, more than
six months after the holding of the electlon.
It is the submission of counsel for Mr Kunro
that the court has no jurlsdlctlon to entertain the appllcatlon because Mr O'Brlen has falled to comply wlth the provlslons of sectlon 159(2) (d) which it
| is clalmed are mandatory. | It is the submlsslon of |
| counsel for b!r | O'Brlen that the provlslons of |
sectlon 159(2) have no appllcatlon because of the
provlslons of sectlon 159(3).
In my opinlon the submission of counsel for
Mr Munro should be upheld. The applicatlon
assumlng it to be one excepted from the operation
of the sectlon by sub-sectlon (3) 1s an appllca-
tion "under thls section". Those are the words
of sub-sectlon (4) whlch apply by reason of what
1s provlded for in sub-sectlon (3).
The appllcatlon being, on the hypothesis upon
whlch the matter has been argued, one made must be observed, lncludlng those of paragraph (d)
pursuant to the sectlon, its provlslons prescribe
the manner and form in whlch it must be made.
| earller set out. | It is common ground that they |
were not observed. There was no submlsslon that
its provlslons were not mandatory, nor could
that submlsslon have been successfully made in
the light of the declslon of the High Court int'ne
Klng v. Commonwealth Court of Conclllatlon and
Arbltratlon ex parte Federated Clerks Union of
Australia, 81 CLR 229. I referpctlcularly to what
was sald at page 243. I also refer to the declslon of the Hlgh Court in the Klng v. Commonwealth Court of Concillatlon and Arbltratlon ex parte Grant,
81 CLR 27, particularly at pages 49 to 51.
In the development of hls argument counsel
for Mr O'Brlen submitted that there was a reason
why in the case of an electlon conducted under the
provlslons of sectlon 170 the legislature would
not have considered it necessary to require the
verlflcatlon of an appllcatlon by a statutorl-
declaration.
That was sald to be so because sub-sectlon (4)
requlred the Industrlal Reglstrar to refer the
applicatlon to the Court. In contrast the
provlslons of sectlon 160 whlch applled in the case
of elections conducted by an organlzatlon ltself -
that is a case to which sectlon 170 dld not apply -
vested the Industrlal Reglstrar wlth jurlsdlctlon
to decide whether or not to grant the applicatlon
and, in the event of it belng granted, to refer
the matter to the court.
In a case such as thls there was no dlscretlon:
| the Reglstrar was bound to refer it. | There was |
thus no polnt in requiring the applicatlon to be
verlfled. Once the matter was referred to the
Court the provlslons of regulation 53 would apply.
Relevantly it would require the applicatlon to be
| supported by | an | a f f l d a v l t of | a f f l r m a t l o n . | No |
| such | a f f l d a v l t has | been | f l l e d bu t | r e g u l a t l o n | 155 |
| enabled | t h e c o u r t | t o exempt | t h e a p p l l c a n t | from |
| t h a t requlrement, | perhaps conditionally upon | t h e |
| a p p l l c a n t | now | f l l l n g t h e | requisite | a f f l 6 a v l t . |
| I | have | taken | t h e ma t t e r s | s o r e l i e d upon | by |
| counsel | f o r t h e a p p l l c a n t | I n t o account. | The |
| f l r s t t h l n g t o be | s a l d is t h a t they | do n o t | i n my |
| opinlon | overcome | t h e p rov l s lons | of | t h e va r lous |
| sub-sec t lons | of | s e c t l o n 159 t o whlch | I have |
| r e f e r r e d . | The l r meanlng | is i n my | oplnlon c l e a r . |
| Secondly, | t h e reason why | s e c t l o n 159(4) |
| provldes | f o r t h e mandatory | r e f e r r a l by | t h e |
| R e g l s t r a r | t o t h e | c o u r t | of | an | a p p l l c a t l o n | f o r an |
| l n q u l r y | I n t o an | e l e c t l o n | conducted | pursuant | t o |
| s e c t l o n 170 i s t h a t such | an | e l e c t l o n may | be |
| he ld by | t h e R e g l s t r a r hlmself | o r by | a person |
| a s s o c l a t e d wl th hlm. | I t | seems | t h a t t h e | l e g l s - |
| l a t u r e thought | t h a t | it was | undes i r ab l e | t h a t | an |
| a p p l l c a t l o n | whlch | Involved | an | e l e c t l o n | conducted |
| by | t h e R e g l s t r a r o r one | of | t h e o t h e r | c l a s s e s | of |
| persons | a s s o c l a t e d wl th | hlm | mentioned | i n t h e |
| s e c t i o n should be | passed | upon | by | t h e R e g l s t r a r |
| h lmse l f . |
| I f | he | r e fused | t h e a p p l l c a t l o n | it mlght | be |
thought t h a t he would be exposed t o charges ,
| unwarranted though they mlght be , of b l a s . | It |
| would be a case perhaps of | j u s t l c e n o t appearing |
| t o be done. | I t mat tered no t t h e r e f o r e whether t h e |
| ma t t e r was | t o be | d e a l t w l th | i n t h e | f l r s t l n s t a n c e | by |
| t h e | R e g l s t r a r under | s e c t l o n | 160 o r was | r equ l r ed | t o |
| be | r e f e r r e d | t o t h e | c o u r t | pursuant | t o s e c t l o n | 1 5 9 ( 4 ) . |
| V e r l f l c a t l o n was | r equ l r ed | and | i t | had | t o be |
| by | way | of | s t a t u t o r y d e c l a r a t l o n which | accompanled |
| t h e | a p p l i c a t l o n . | U n t l l | such | a | d e c l a r a t l o n | was |
| lodged | t h e | a p p l i c a t l o n | was | no t | p roper ly | be fo re | t h e |
| R e g l s t r a r . | The | f a c t | t h a t r e g u l a t l o n | 53 provldes |
| f o r an | a f f l d a v l t of | a f f l r m a t l o n | is | of | no | re levance . |
| The | legislature | has made | c l e a r t h a t a l l app l l ca - |
| t i o n s under | s e c t l o n 159 a r e t o be accompanled by | a |
| s t a t u t o r y | d e c l a r a t l o n | verifying | t h e | application. |
| I t | fo l lows | t h a t | t h e | pre l lmlnary | o b ~ e c t l o n |
taken by counsel f o r M r Munro should be upheld.
| To some t h l s may | seem a r a t h e r technical approach |
| bu t | l l m l t a t l o n p rov l s lons | of | t h e k lnd | here | provlded |
| f o r a r e common i n many A c t s of Parliament. | There |
| 1s | a | p u b l l c | l n t e r e s t | i n | l l m l t l n g | t h e | tlme | wl th ln |
| whlch d l s p u t e s may | be brought be fo re cou r t s . | That |
| must | be particularly | s o i n t h e case of | an e l e c t l o n |
| t o an o f f l c e . | A pe r lod of | SIX | months is allowed |
| and | t h e p rov l s lons | of | s e c t l o n | 159(5) ( c ) | a r e such |
| a s t o a l low | f u r t h e r t lme | i f | t h e | circumstances |
| t h e r e provlded | f o r do e x l s t . | P l a l n l y , | they do n o t |
In this case. Counsel for the applicant expressly said that his client was not in a positlon to lead evidence to show that he was wlthln the terms of
that provision.
What is the order you ask for, Mr Madgklck?
MR MADGWICK: We ask for an order that the court decllned to
proceed further wlth the matter under - I was
thinklng of 5(c) really, your Honour, because we
submitted that this was an appllcatlon under 5(c)
as to whlch the court could not proceed. Also
we ask your Honour to expressly flnd that your
Honour is not satisfled that there is reasonable
| ground for the appl~catlon | in that there is not |
| a valid application - - - |
HIS HONOUR: Where are you reading from?
MR MADGWICK: 4(b), your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: What is wrong with me slmply dismlsslng the
application?
MR PVDGWICK: I think if your Honour were to dlsmiss the
proceedings, that would technically be better.
HIS HONOUR: That is what it amounts to.
PllR MADGWICK: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Because although there may be no ~urlsdlctlon,
the matter is expressly referred to the court.
In other words, the court has to look at it.
MR YADGWICK: It would be appropriate if your Honour
dlsrnissed the appllcatlon, because there is an
appllcatlon.
HIS HONOUR: That is what I had in mlnd dolng. What do you
say, Mr Lamprati?
MR LAMPRATI: As your Honour says, it is a difficult matter.
Perhaps the appropriate or6er in disposing of the
application mlght be merely to dlsmiss it. In
the circumstances I would not oppose that. There
1s a further matter, namely the questlon of
sectlon 168.
(continued on page 34)
| MR | MADGWICK: | There | 1s a ma t t e r | t h a t a r l s e s t h a t I would | l i k e |
| t o r a l s e b e f o r e | your | Honour | d e a l s w l th | t h e | app l l c - |
| a t i o n under | s e c t l o n | 168 by | t h e | a p p l l c a n t . |
| HIS | HONOUR: | What | i s t h a t ? |
| MR | MADGWICK: | That has t o do wl th your Honour | g l v l n g a |
| c e r t l f l c a t e | i n e f f e c t | t h a t | t h e | a p p l l c a n t | a c t e d | r ea s - |
| onably | whlch | may | a s s l s t i n t h e | l e g a l | a l d | a p p l l c a t l o n , |
and I would want t o seek c o s t s .
| HIS HONOUR: | Let me | j u s t unders tand t h l s . | You both ag ree t h a t |
| t h e appropriate o rde r f o r me | t o make | 1s t h a t t h e |
| a p p l l c a t l o n | be | dlsmlssed? |
| MR MADGWICK: | Yes. |
| MR | LAMPRATI: | Y e s . |
| HIS | HONOUR: | Then | it becomes | a q u e s t l o n of | c o s t s ? |
| MR | MADGWICK: | Y e s . |
| HIS HONOUR: | I w i l l make | t h e o rde r t h a t t h e a p p l l c a t l o n be |
| dlsmlssed. | You | asked f o r c o s t s a g a l n s t - - - |
| MR | MADGWICK: | I | asked | f o r c o s t s a g a l n s t t h e a p p l l c a n t . |
| HIS | HONOUR: | What | i s t h e normal | r u l e h e r e i n r e l a t l o n t o |
| c o s t s ? | Do | they normally fo l low - - - |
| MR | MADGWICK: | The | p o s l t l o n | i s n o t | s t r a l g h t f o r w a r d . | Your |
| Honour has a power | under s e c t l o n 168(5 ) t o award |
| c o s t s . | I t | says : |
| Nothlng | i n t h l s s e c t l o n s h a l l l l m l t |
| t h e power | of | t h e c o u r t | . . . . . . |
| . | ~n o r i n connection wlth |
| an | i n q u l r y | - |
| The | foregolnq p a r t of | s e c t l o n 168 i s concerned wl th |
| s t e p s t h a t a r e lnvolved | i n t h e Attorney | General |
| lndernnlfylng p a r t l e s . | Your Honour | a l s o would have |
| power, | I n my | submlsslon, | i f f o r any reason s e c t l o n |
| 168(5) 1s | n o t | a p p l i c a b l e , | c o n t r a r y | t o my | submlsslon, |
| under | s e c t l o n 116 of | t h e a c t whlch | says : |
| Sub jec t t o s e c t l o n | 197A under | t h e |
| regulations. | . . . . . . . . . | dismissed |
| f o r want | of | j u r l s d l c t l o n . |
| There | 1s noth lng of | r e l evance , | I | t h i n k . | I n t h e |
| r e g u l a t l o n s | bu t | s e c t l o n | 197A would | govern | bo th |
| s e c t l o n | 168(5) and | a l s o s e c t l o n | 116, | and | it | says : |
| So | f a r a s m a t e r l a l | a | p a r t y t o a | proceeding |
| . . . . . . . . . . | l n s t l t u t e d | t h e | proc- |
| eedlngs vexatiously | o r wl thout reasonable |
| cause . |
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| 0' | Brien |
It is our submlsslon that the proceedlng in the clrcumstances - the appllcatlon - was instlt- uted without reasonable cause because it was
lnstltuted in fact under paragraph (c) of sectlon
159(5), and my learned frlend very properly told
the court that there was no suggestion that reas-
onable diligence could not have got the matter
right.
| HIS HONOUR: | I do not think he would really agree with you. |
He would say he brought it wlthln the slx months and he has lost an argument about it.
| MR MADGWICK: | If he has lost an argument the effect stlll is that in the result he was outslde the llmltatlon period, and thls was not a llmltatlon period whlch it was wlthln the power of the court or of any other party, being in the position of a defendant, to walve and, In our submission, there could be no clearer case of the proceedlng belng brought wlthout reasonable cause. |
The cases say, and the terms of the two sections,
sectlon 116 and sectlon 168(5) wlth respect to those
courts who decide the matter obviously make it clear,
that under each the court has a discretlon as to costs,
and we would submlt afflrmatlvely that the matters to
which your Honour referred at the very end of the
judgment are relevant to the question of tkcourt's
discretion, and Insofar as the nature of the sub-
stantive matters - the matters golng to merlt - of
the appllcatlon are concerned, we would just wlsh to
say in relatlon to discretlon that, first of all,
allegations of lmproprlety or lnfractlon of the
rules of the unlon, the organlsatlon, are strenuously
denled, and that in particular ltems sald to have
been pald for out of unlon funds were not so pald
at all.
| HIS HONOUR: | Mr Madplck, I cannot go Into the merlts of it. |
| MR MADGWICK: | I know, your Honour, but I want your Honour to know the case that my client would have made because ~t may be sald it is relevant in respect of your Honour's discretlon. |
| HIS HONOUR: | It seems to me the question I have to declde is whether in the clrcumstances, by not flling his declaration or lodging it out of time, he instituted the proceedlng vexatiously and wlthout reasonable cause. |
| MR MADGWICK: | I do not suggest ~exatlously. I do say without |
reasonable cause. He chose, for whatever reasons,
to leave it very late and then, finally, to have to
rely. I£ at all, upon the allegation that wlth reasonable
dlllgence he could not have done it sooner. That is
just not the position, as frankly conceded, and in
those clrcumstances havlng regard to the public Interest
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| I n | t h e s e m a t t e r s | being | brought | on | qu ick ly w e |
| would | submit t h a t it is a c l e a r c a s e where | t h e |
| proceedings | w e r e l n s t l t u t e d wl thout | reasonable |
| cause . |
| HIS HONOUR: | What do you say, M r Larnpratl? |
| MR LAMPRATI: | Your Honour, w e oppose t h e submlsslons whlch have |
| been made by my | l ea rned f r i e n d . | Your Honour asked |
| a t t h e o u t s e t what | i s t h e gene ra l practice. | I mlght |
say. your Honour, t h a t I do n o t know of any case , particularly s i n c e s e c t l o n 197A has been enac ted ,
| where | a | p a r t y has been | ordered t o pay | c o s t s . |
| HIS HONOUR: | I have r ead a couple of r e c e n t judgments of Sweeney |
| J | and | t h e r e i s no | r e f e r e n c e | t o c o s t s | i n e l t h e r o f |
| those . | I do n o t know whether application was made |
| a f t e r d e l i v e r y of | t h e | judgment. |
| MR | LAMPRATI: | I | b e l l e v e I am | c o r r e c t i n say ing t h a t t h e |
| normal | cou r se i s t h a t t h e c o s t s l l e where | t hey | f a l l . |
| HIS HONOUR: | I n one of | t h e c a s e s h i s Honour | f o u d w h a t | I rnlght |
| d e s c r i b e | a s a | f a i r l y b l a t a n t breach | of | t h e under- |
| s t and lnq t h a t union | funds mlght be expended | f o r t h i s |
| purpose, | bu t t h e r e does n o t appear t o have been any |
| o rde r | f o r | c o s t s . |
| MR LAMPRATI: | No, normal procedure. | your Honour. | I n my | submlsslon it i s n o t t h e |
| My | l ea rned f r l e n d has r e f e r r e d t o |
| s e c t l o n | 116 | and | t h a t s e c t l o n makes | q u l t e c l e a r t h a t |
| what | is | i n t h a t s e c t l o n | 1s | s u b j e c t | t o s e c t l o n | 179A. |
| whlch | says: |
| A p a r t y - - - |
| You | have r ead t h e s e c t l o n , your | Honour? |
| HIS HONOUR: | Yes. | I do n o t wlsh t o h e a r any more, M r Larnpratl. |
| Do | you | wish | t o make | any | s e p a r a t e a p p l l c a t l o n under |
| s e c t l o n | 168? |
| MR | LAMPRATI: | I do. | your Honour, | t h e r e l e v a n t p a r t of | s e c t l o n |
168 belng:
| Where | upon | an l n q u l r y a | c o u r t |
| does n o t f l n d any irregularity | . . |
. . . . . . . . ~n s o applylng - - -
| HIS HONOUR: | I am | s o r r y , I am a g a i n s t you on t h a t . 1 could n o t |
| hold t h a t you | a c t e d reasonably | i n t h e l l g h t of | t h e |
| judgment I have j u s t delivered. | I t seems t o me | t h a t |
M r Madwick has t o establish you a c t e d wl thout r e a s - onable cause under s e c t l o n 197A and you have t o show you a c t e d reasonably, and I would have thought my
| own | judgment | was | a | nega t ion of | t h a t s l t u a t l o n . |
| MR | LAMPRATI: | I n a | s ense t h a t p u t s me | i n a difficult | s i t u a t i o n . |
I am n o t aware of whether your Honour i s referring t o
| t h e m e r l t s | - | - | - |
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| 0' | Brien |
| HIS | HONOUR: | I cannot r e f e r t o t h e m e r l t s . | I know noth lng |
| about them. | I am | simply t a l k i n g about t k f a c t |
| t h a t you | f l l e d an | a p p l i c a t i o n which | was | n o t competent |
because i t was n o t accompanied by t h e declaration.
| MR LAMPRATI: | Yes. |
| HIS HONOUR: | I would | t h l n k r e a l l y what | t h e l e g i s l a t u r e had | i n |
| mind i n sub-sect lon | (2) would be t h e j udge ' s view |
| of | t h e m e r l t s | i n r e l a t l o n t o t h e subs tance of | t h e |
| mat te r . | and | t h a t i s a ma t t e r | l n t o whlch | I | have n o t |
| gone. | I know noth lng about it. |
| MR LAMPRATI: | Very w e l l , your Honour. | I would ask your Honour, |
| i n maklng any r u l l n g on t h e question, | i f your Honour |
| p l ea ses , | t o i n d i c a t e t h a t your | Honour | would | n o t be |
| r e f u s l n g | t o c e r t l f y | m e r l t s of | a | cons lde ra t lon | by | t h e |
| c o u r t on | t h e meri ts | of | t h e mat te r . |
| HIS HONOUR: | I f you want me | t o s a y t h a t I w l l 1 , b u t it must be |
| c l e a r t h a t I | simply know | noth ing about t h e ma t t e r . | I |
| have | r ead | t h e documents | accompanying | t h e | a p p l l c a t l o n |
| bu t | I | could | n o t p o s s l b l y | express | a | vlew | on | t h e mer l t s . |
| The | ma t t e r | has | n o t been | be fo re | m e . |
| MR LAMPRATI: | Very w e l l , your Honour. |
| HIS | HONOUR: | M r Munro, | having | been | s u c c e s s f u l , | has | a p p l l e d f o r |
| c o s t s . | There i s j ~ r l s d l ~ t i ~ n | t o award | c o s t s bu t | t h a t |
| j u r l S d l ~ t l o n | i s | Sub jec t t o t h e | ope ra t lon | of | s e c t l o n |
| 197A of | t h e a c t . | Re levant ly , | t h e p rov l s lons | of | t h a t |
| s e c t l o n a r e t h a t a | p a r t y | s h a l l n o t be | ordered | t o pay |
| any | c o s t s | i ncu r r ed by | any | o t h e r p a r t y | except where |
| t h e p a r t y a g a l n s t whom | t h e | o rde r | is made | l n s t l t u t e d |
| t h e proceedings | vexa t lous ly | o r wl thout | reasonable |
| cause. |
| Counsel does n o t r e l y upon | t h e proceedlngs havlng |
| been | l n s t l t u t e d vexa t lous ly | bu t | does | say , | i n t h e | l l g h t |
| of | my | f i n d i n g s , | t h a t t h e proceedings were | l n s t l t u t e d |
| wl thout reasonable cause . | I | have glven t h a t ma t t e r |
| c o n s l d e r a t l o n | b u t | I | t h l n k | t h a t | t h e | problem | d e a l t wl th |
| by me | i n my | judgment | was | n o t s t r a l a h t f o r w a r d and | I am |
| n o t | s a t i s f l e d t h a t t h e proceedlngs | w e r e | instituted |
| wi thout reasonable cause . | I | t h e r e f o r e make | no | o rde r |
| a s t o t h e c o s t s of | M r Munro. |
Counsel f o r t h e applicant has sought a certificate
| pursuant | t o s e c t l o n 168(2) of | t h e a c t t h a t would | Involve |
| m e certifying t h a t M r O'Brlen a c t e d reasonably | i n t h e |
| circumstances. | I am n o t prepared s o t o c e r t l f y because |
| of | t h e l a t e n e s s wi th | which | h i s a p p l l c a t l o n was | made |
and t h e f a c t t h a t I have found it was incompetent i n n o t havlng been accompanied by t h e requisite d e c l a r -
| a t l o n s . | I | t h e r e f o r e d e c l i n e | t o c e r t l f y pursuant | t o |
| s e c t i o n | 168(2) of | t h e a c t . | Is | t h e r e any | o t h e r ma t t e r ? |
| I f | n o t , | t h e c o u r t w l l l ad journ . |
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