R W Miller & Co (South Australia) Pty Limited v McKain
[1990] HCATrans 235
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IN THE HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA
Office of the Registry
Sydney No S103 of 1990 B e t w e e n -
R W MILLER & CO (SOUTH
AUSTRALIA) PTY. LIMITED
Applicant
and
WILLIAM THOMAS McKAIN
Respondent
Application for removal of
cause pursuant to section 40(1)
of the Judiciary Act 1903
DEANE J
DAWSON J
TOOHEY J
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
AT SYDNEY ON FRIDAY, 12 OCTOBER 1990, AT 10.15 AM
Copyright in the High Court of Australia
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MR J.R. SACKAR, QC: In this matter, if the Court pleases, I
appear with my learned friend, MR G.O'L REYNOLDS,
for the applicant. (instructed by Ebsworth &
Ebsworth)
MR D.A. WHEELAHAN, QC: If the Court pleases, I appear with
my learned friend, MR N.F. FRANCEY, for the
respondent. (instructed by W.G. McNally & Co)
| MR SACKAR: | May I just make reference to one matter in the |
application book before I proceed? In the very
last page of it, page 15, paragraph 18 of the
statement of agreed facts, Your Honours will have
noticed that there are certain, if I may describe
them as minor matters which were said not to be in
agreement. May I indicate now to the Court I am instructed we now agree to the paragraphs and I
would seek to have paragraph 18 deleted from that
statement.
DEANE J: Very well.
MR SACKAR: Your Honours, this is an application pursuant to
section 40 for the removal into this Court in the
exercise of its original jurisdiction of a case
which arises, as Your Honours will see from the
pleadings, in the State of New South Wales, the
Supreme Court, in an action for tort.
| DEANE J: | Mr Sackar, you can assume we have read the papers. |
You can also assume that we are conscious of the
fact that the point is not an unimportant one to
the extent that it is open. The real question, I think, that you should be concerned with is whether
an order for removal should be made in a situation
where if the matter were dealt with as a
preliminary point by a judge sitting at first
instance the Court's experience is not only of much
greater order is introduced but also that thepossibilities of things going awry when the matter
actually comes on is much less.
| MR SACKAR: | I am grateful to Your Honour. | May I say this: |
the trial judge in the State of New South Wales at
the moment or, indeed, the Court of Appeal in that
State, if faced with such a question, would be
confronted with Breavington. In Breavington three
Justices of this Court took the constitutional
route via section 118.
So far as the other four were concerned, there
is significant doubt, if I may put it that way,
amongst those four as to what the true state of the
common law position is so far as this country is
concerned. Was Koop v Bebb overruled in Breavington or is Phillips v Eyre still the
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law? Breavington, of course, was a case dealt with
on the pleadings.
| DEANE J: | Of course, that is a slightly double-edged sword, |
is it not? I mean, we would at least have the
advantage of the trial judge telling us what we had
decided in - - -
MR SACKAR: Well, I would not submit that this Court,
bearing in mind the decision already in Byrnes v
Groote Eylandt Mining Co where the President of the
Court of Appeal has indicated on the common law
issue, for example, the section 118 point arguably
not arising there, being a territorial question,
indicated a preference for the Chief Justice's view
on the common law.
We would submit that here no assistance, if I may put it respectfully to those courts below,
would be given to this Court by four judges
surmising or speculating first, if I may put it
again what the ratio of Breavington is but, moreimportantly, what truly is the full force and
effect of section 118. This Court is the court
which should clear the air and create the
uniformity and the certainty so as to avoid the
very injustice which all members of the Court in
Breavington had in mind, the underlying notion of
the same result occurring wherever the case is
heard in this country.
DEANE J: It would not necessarily be four Judges.
MR SACKAR: They may sit more.
DEANE J: No, it could be one.
MR SACKAR: Well, that is true.
DEANE J: Sorting out everything and identifying the issues
and identifying the authorities and
expressing - - -
| MR SACKAR: | May I put it this way: | first, my submission is |
that such facts that this Court would need, and we
submit it does not need any - it could deal with it
as it did in Breavington on the pleadings - are
agreed and in the back of the book. If there were a factual matter which this Court thought might be
relevant then it could remit that fact or those
factual matters to the supreme court - - -
DAWSON J: But it is already isolated as a question on the
pleadings, is it not?
| MR SACKAR: | It is isolated as a question on the pleadings. |
For more abundant caution we moved to secure or
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attempt to secure the agreement on all of the
relevant factual issues which we could imagine
might touch upon it if that arose. But we would submit that a single judge would or may approach it
as five members of this Court approached it inBreavington without reference to fact at all.
It is only in the case of the Chief Justice's
view, perhaps, or Your Honour Justice Deane's view,
that the formula, for example, in Your Honour's
case of the most real and substantial connection
may have factual issues to be determined. The other five Judges of the Court either in applying alternative, as Your Honour Justice Toohey preferred, it appears, Lord Wilberforce in Chaplin
v Boys, they are legal questions which will
determine by analysis the lex causi. We submit, therefore, that there are no reasons here why the
matter would assist this Court for the reasons I
have put. A single judge could not, we would submit with the greatest of respect to him or her,
enlighten the High Court as to what the High Court
truly means in respect of its varying views in
Breavington.
Now, in Breavington, as Your Honours will
recall, Your Honour Justice Deane took the view
that section 118 was the answer. The notional concept was the most real and substantial
connection. Their Honours Justices Gaudron andWilson took the view that section 118 was a complete answer and there was an analogous common law principle to deal with territories.
Your Honour Justice Toohey preferred not to deal
conclusively with section 118; the remaining
members of the Court taking different views on the
common law but rejecting section 118.
With the very greatest of respect, there is no
possible assistance that could be offered to this
Court on this very important issue for this
Federation bearing in mind, as I have said, its susceptibility to be determined in any event on the
pleadings, for the reasons I have put, as was
Breavington. In any event, the significant agreement already advanced, and if there were
possibly a question of fact upon which - - -
| DAWSON J: | My point is it has to be determined as a question |
on the pleadings, perhaps, in the context of agreed
facts anyway.
MR SACKAR: Exactly. The trial judge, I would submit with
the greatest of respect, would not be troubled, I
would submit, to determine the issues that we want
to agitate by any factual consideration. So, for
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those reasons we would submit that it is more than
desirable in the current state of authority, it is
extremely important for this country that thisissue be determined both as to the section 118
point and really what I am asking is that the
separate trial be removed - one would use the old
description of "demurrer" - because within theseparate trial issue necessarily one looks to - and
I am not being exhaustive - such issues as the
state of the common law for this country. That is
a necessary parallel consideration, at least, in
terms of looking at the full blown effect of
section 118. Not irrelevant is the question also of substance and procedure of a limitation statute.
Now, here, if I may simply say no more on that
issue - if section 118 has its full blown effect,
the distinction between substance and procedure on
one view will become irrelevant. And, in any
event, here this particular section which is now
pleaded, section 36 of the South Australian
Limitation Act, is possibly procedural. It is a
pure - if I can use that description - Limitation
Act as opposed to the statute which was looked at
in Byrnes v Groote Eylandt which, clearly on its
face, or on its proper construction was substantive
and therefore this raises the very issue, we wouldsubmit, in its best form to be determined.
Unless the Court would wish me to address any
other issues, they are the submissions we have to
make.
DEANE J: Thank you, Mr Sackar. What have you got to say,
Mr Wheelahan?
| MR WHEELAHAN: | Very little, Your Honour. | Our position is |
one of concerned neutrality. We see considerable force in the arguments of the applicant but we do
not wish to put any submissions to you.
| DEANE J: | Very well. | The Court makes an order for removal |
pursuant to section 40(1) of the Judiciary Act in the terms of that asked for in the notice of
motion.
MR SACKAR: If the Court pleases.
| MR WHEELAHAN: | May it please the Court. |
AT 10.28 AM THE MATTER WAS ADJOURNED SINE DIE
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