Supreme Court
New South Wales
Medium Neutral Citation: R v LN; R v AW (No. 3) [2017] NSWSC 154 Hearing dates: 24 February 2017 Date of orders: 24 February 2017 Decision date: 24 February 2017 Jurisdiction: Common Law - Criminal Before: Johnson J Decision: Evidence of conversation allowed.
Catchwords: CRIMINAL LAW - murder trial - objection to part of conversation recorded during walkthrough interview between police and Accused LN - objection on ground of relevance and under s.137 Evidence Act 1995 - evidence relevant - probative value not outweighed by any prejudicial effect - evidence allowed Legislation Cited: Evidence Act 1995 Cases Cited: R v LN; R v AW (No. 1) [2017] NSWSC 119 Texts Cited: --- Category: Procedural and other rulings Parties: Regina (Crown)
LN (Accused)
AW (Accused)Representation: Counsel:
Solicitors:
Ms MM Cunneen SC (Crown)
Mr EW Wilson SC (LN)
Ms A Moen (AW)
Director of Public Prosecutions (Crown)
Legal Aid NSW (LN)
Matouk Joyner Lawyers (AW)
File Number(s): 2014/271972 (LN)2014/274229 (AW) Publication restriction: On 18 April 2017, each of LN and AW was found guilty of murder by the jury. The name of their daughter (described as “Mary”) may not be identified by operation of s.15A Children (Criminal Proceedings) Act 1987, which also operates with respect to the names of LN and AW, the publication of whose names would tend to identify their daughter. The first name of the victim, Joseph or Joey, may be published.
Judgment
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JOHNSON J: In the concluding phases of discussions between counsel concerning appropriate editing of lengthy interviews which have taken place between police and one or other of the Accused over many weeks, there is a single issue for consideration and determination by the Court. It is of course, highly desirable that the parties embark upon this process of discussion to narrow what is to be tendered, and to avoid the need for a Court decision unless necessary. The process undertaken in this trial, of which this is an example, is a highly satisfactory one.
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The issue that arises for consideration by the Court is this. On 13 August 2014, police conducted a walk-through interview where the Accused LN accompanied police to the park over the road from LN's house in Oberon where it is said that an incident occurred on 3 August 2014 involving the child Joseph, and some dogs. To understand this aspect, I refer to my outline of the Crown case against each Accused in R v LN; R v AW (No. 1) [2017] NSWSC 119.
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In the course of the recorded conversation in the park, the following was said:
Detective Sergeant Fawkner: "All right. When you said that you wanted to tell me things about your thoughts of killing [Joseph], how did you think about that?”.
LN: “I, at first, I didn't think about it. It was the chatter that was making me angry”.
Detective Sergeant Fawkner: “Yep, but in what, how would you do it?”.
LN: “Like, what do you mean?”
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