Poulos, Peter Anthony v Waltons Stores (Interstate) Ltd

Case

[1985] FCA 136

29 Mar 1985

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IN THE

FEDERAL

COURT OF AUSTR4LIA)

1

1 3 6,

AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRI’I’ORY

)

No. ACT 1 0 o f 1984

1

DISI’RICT REGISTRY

1 1

INDUSTRIAL DIVlSION

On

Appeal

from

a

s m g l e J u d g e

o f

t h e

F e d e r a l

Court

o f

A u s t r a l i a

Between : PETER AKTHONY POULOS

(Appe l l an t )

And:

-

WALTONS STORES

(INTERSTATE)

LIMITED

(Respondent)

Coram:

Smithers,

Keely

and

Gray

JJ.

Date :

2 9

March

1985

~

Canberra

COUCLUSlOiJS AS '1'0 'l, .n CLASSlFlCATlUN

OF TIIE APPELLANT 'S

EMPLOYMENT

THE COURT:

This i s an

appea

l

aga ins t

an

o rder

by

t h e

t r i a l judge

dismissing

a

c la im

by

the appe l l an t

unde r

5.123

o f t h e C o n c i l i a t i o n

6

A r b i t r a t i o n

Act

1904

f o r a

sum

s a i d t o b e

due

t o him

as

wages

p u r s u a n t

t o

t h e

p r o v i s i o n s

o f

t h e

R e t a i l

&

Wholesale

Shop

Employees

( A u s t r a l i a n

C a p i t a l

T e r r i t o r y )

Award

1968.

Subject

t o q u e s t i o n s o f

law

t h e c r i t i c a l q u e s t i o n

i s

whether

the work

proved

to

have

been

performed

by

t h e

a p p e l l a n t

f o r

t h e

r e s p o n d e n t

was work

which

f a l l s w i t h i n c l a s s i f i c a t i o n

number

4

i n

c l ause

5

of

the

Award.

The

t e r m s

o

f

t h a t

c l a s s i f i c a t l o n

a r e

"orderperson

and

outdoor

orderperson,

namely

employees

engaged

i n c o l l e c t i n g o r d e r s a n d / o r

s o l i c i t i n g b u s i n e s s a n d / o r s e l l i n g

away

from

the employer ' s

p

lace

o

f

bus iness"

The

f ind ing o f

t he l ea rned Judge

was

t h a t t h e

work

performed

by

t h e

a p p e l l a n t

was

n o t work

w i t h i n

t h i s

c l a s s i f i c a t i o n .

He

s a i d :

"What he i s employed t o do i s t o go to

houses

and

measure

and

quote

for

f loor

covering.

Al

though

he

may

i n

some

ins tances be

the

f i rs t

po in t

o f

con tac t

w i th

a

p o t e n t i a l

customer

(as ,

f o r

example,

when

h e a t t e n d s t o

a

person

who

comes

t o

t h e r e s p o n d e n t ' s

r e t a i l

s t o r e

e n q u i r i n g a b o u t

f l o o r

c o v e r i n g s

a t a

t ime

when

t h e a p p l i c a n t

i s

a c t i n g a s

a

salesman behind

the

c o u n t e r ) ,

t h a t

i s the

excep t iona l

r a the r

t han

t he

no rma l

cou r se

of events ."

His Honour

took

the

view

t h a t t h e a p p e l l a n t

was

r e q u i r e d

t o

e s t a b l i s h

t h a t

t h e d o m i n a n t

f e a t u r e o f

h i s

d u t i e s

a n s w e r

t h e

d e s c r i p t i o n

i n

t h e

c l a s s i f i c a t i o n .

I t

i s

ou r

v

i

ew

tha t

t he ques t ion

is n o t t o

be

reso lved

by

r e f e r e n c e

t o what

features

2 .

of

the

work

performed were the dominant ones but

ra

ther

whether

the

work

aerformed

was

work

o f t h e n a t u r e a n d q u a l i t y f u l f i l l i n g

t h e

t e r m s

o

f

t h e

c l a s s i f i c a t i o n .

The

ev idence

o

f

t he

appe l l an t

was

uncontradicted and no reason

was

sugges ted

by

the l ea rned

Judge nor submi t ted to

us

by

counsel

why

tha t ev idence shou ld

not

be

accepted.

From

t h a t

e v i d e n c e

i t

i s i n

o u r v iew

es tab l i shed

t h a t t h e

Work

o f t h e a p p e l l a n t

i n c l u d e d t h e f o l l o w i n g o p e r a t i o n s ,

namely :

(a)

a t t e n d i n g

t h e

homes

o f

p o t e n t i a l

c a r p e t

p u r c h a s e r s

t o measure

the

amount

of

carpet

required

for

the

customers '

purposes;

(b)

o f f e r i n g

a d v i c e

a s

t o

t h e

t y p e s

o f

f l o o r

coverings

ava

i

l

ab

le

f

rom the

r

e

sponden

t

and

mos

t

su i t ab le fo r

the

customer;

(c)

ca l cu la t ing

and

quo t ing

t he

p r i ces

o

f

t he

va r ious

op t ions

open

to

t he

cus tomer ;

(a)

advis ing

the

customer

as

t o

t h e

c r e d i t

a n d

t e r m s

o

f

c r e d i t a v a i l a b l e ;

[e)

o b t a i n i n g

t h e

s i g n a t u r e

o f

the

cus tomer

to

an

o

rder

i f

t h e t r a n s a c t i o n

was

concluded.

The

ev idence does no t

d i sc lose

the p ropor t ion of

v i s i t s

of

the

appe l l an t

t o cus tomers '

homes

on

which

an

o r d e r was

a c t u a l l y

signed.

But

it

is

c l e a r

t h a t

t h i s

was

always

an

object

which

i t

was

t h e a p p e l l a n t ' s

d u t y t o p u r s u e a n d t h a t h e

was

s u c c e s s f u l i n t h i s

on

occasions.

The

evidence was

t h a t i n

some

cases

an

o r d e r r e s u l t e d s t r a i g h t

away

a n d i n o t h e r s

an

o r d e r

never

r e s u l e d

i n f u r t h e r

c a s e s

it

r e s u l t e d a f t e r

some

delay.

I t was n o t

s u g g e s t e d

t h a t

t h e

number

o f

cases i n lihlch

the

a p p e l l a n t o b t a i n e d a n a c t u a l o r d e r

on

t h e s p o t

was

insignificant'

3.

But

t h e

i m p o r t a n t

f a c t o r

i s

t h a t

i t

was

h i s

d u t y

t o

o b t a i n

o n e

i

f

he cou ld bu t ,

i n

any even t

t o

p romote an u l t ima te s a l e .

The

a rgument

pu t

to

us

on

th i s

appea l

by

t he r e sponden t

was

t h a t

a c c e p t e d

by

the

l earned

judge ,

namely

,

tha t

in

the

g r e a t

m a j o r i t y o f

c a s e s ,

t h e i n i t i a l

a p p r o a c h

on

beha l f

o f

t he

r e sponden t t o

a

po ten t i a l cus tomer

was

by

what

i s c a l l e d a

" t r a v e l l e r c a l l e r "

o r

some

o t h e r

member

o f t h e r e s p o n d e n t ' s s t a f f .

The

conclus ion f rom th i s

was

t h a t t h e

work

performed

by

the

a p p e l l a n t

was

n o t i n t h e n a t u r e o f c o l l e c t i n g o r d e r s o r s o l i c i t i n g

b u s i n e s s

o r

s e l l i n g .

I n

t r u t h ,

h o w e v e r ,

t h e

f a c t

t h a t

t h e

f i r s t

con tac t

was

by another

member

o f s t a f f h a s

no

bea r ing

on

the quest ion of

whether

what

was

done

by

t h e a p p e l l a n t f i t t e d

t h e

c l a s s i f i c a t i o n .

C l e a r l y

i n

m o s t

c a s e s

a f t e r

t h e

i n i t i a t i n g

a c t i o n o f t h e t r a v e l l e r c a l l e r t h e r e a l p r o c e s s

of

inducing

a

s a l e

h a d y e t

t o

be

performed.

But

for

the

fol low

up by

the appe l l an t

w i th

a l l

the

advice

and

information

which

he

gave

to

t

he

cus

tomer

,

w i th

a

v iew to

caus

ing

her

o r

him

to pu rchase

c a r p e t ,

It may

be

t h a t a

s a l e would not

have

eventuated;

The

work

o f

t h e a p p e l l a n t

was

i n e v i t a b l y t h a t

o f

c o l l e c t i n g

o rde r s ,

s o l i c i t i n g

b u s i n e s s

o r s e l l i n g .

I t

i s

a l s o

c l e a r

o

f

c o u r s e

t h a t i t was

c a r r i e d on

away

from the

employer

's

p

lace

of

bus iness .

Having

regard

to

the

above

i t

i s

o u r

v i ew tha t

t he

work

pe r fo rmed by t he appe l l an t

f a l l s

w i th in t he r e l evan t

c l a s s i f i c a t i o n .

4 .

Accordingly,

questions

of

law

remain

t o be

decided.

The

p r inc ipa l

o f

such ques t ions conce rned t he e f f ec t

o f

t he

making

of

a

d e c l a r a t i o n t h a t t h e t e r m s o f t h e a w a r d b e

a

common rule i n

t h e

A u s t r a l i a n

C a p i t a l

T e r r i t o r y .

F o r

reasons

which

were

val

id

,

counsel

f o r the

respondent

i s

unable

a t

t h i s

s t a g e

t o

d e a l

w i t h

t h i s

i s s u e

s a t i s f a c t o r i l y .

I n

the

c i rcumstances

we

publ ish

the

foregoing

conclusion

and

adjourn

t h e appea l

to

a day to

be

f ixed

on

t h e

a p p l i c a t i o n

o f e i t h e r p a r t y

on

n o t i c e

t o

t he o the r .

I

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