Loder v Aysom & Ors; Denyllek Pty Limited v Aysom & Ors; Bertoli v Aysom

Case

[1988] HCATrans 170

No judgment structure available for this case.

IN THE HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA
Office of the Registry
Sydney No S9 of 1988

B e t w e e n -

STEPHEN JOHN LODER

Applicant

and

LORRAINE EVELYN AYSOM, ROBERT ERIC
AYSOM, SID MOORE RACING PTY LIMITED,

SYDNEY VICTOR MOORE

Respondents

Office of the Registry

Sydney No Sl0 of 1988

B e t w e e n -

DENYLLEK PTY LIMITED

Applicant

and

LORRAINE EVELYN AYSOM, ROBERT ERIC
AYSOM, SID MOORE RACING PTY LIMITED,

SYDNEY VICTOR MOORE

Respondents

Office of the Registry

Sydney No Sl5 of 1988
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Between-

NEIL WILLIAM BERTOLI

Applicant

and

ROBERT ERIC AYSOM, LORRAINE EVELYN
AYSOM, STEPHEN JOHN LODER, SYDNEY

VICTOR MOORE, SID MOORE RACING PTY

LIMITED, DENYLLEK INVESTMENTS PTY

LIMITED

Respondents

Applications for special leave to

appeal

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MASON CJ
BRENNAN J

DEANE J

TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

AT SYDNEY ON FRIDAY, 12 AUGUST 1988, AT 10.03 AM

Copyright in the High Court of Australia

MR J. FOORD, QC: If Your Honours please, I appear with my

learned friend, MR J. HANLY, for the first two

applicants. (instructed by Maxwell Mi }.es & Co)

MR K. HANDLEY, QC: If the Court pleases, I appear with my

learned friend, MRS. O'RYAN, for the third applicant,

Bertoli. (instructed by Henry Davis York)

:MR. M. BROUN, QC: 

If the Court pleases, I appear with :MR. R. MATER for

the wife, who is a respondent in each of the !Ilcltters.
(instructed by ·Knudsen & Carroll)

MR D.M.J. BENNETT, QC: If the Court pleases, I appear with

my learned friend, MR T.J. CLARKE, for the third

and fourth respondents in the first matter and

the third and fourth in the second matter and

the fourth and fifth in the third matter, being

Mr Moore and Sid Moore Racing Pty Ltd, the purchaser from the receivers. (instructed by Ronald J. Curry

& Company)
MASON CJ:  Yes, Mr Foord.
MR FOORD:  May it please·Your Honours, in proceedings in
the Family Law Court for dissolution of marriage,
the marriage was dissolved leaving unresolved
various  questions relating to property claims
by the wife.  What happened was that she sought
an order in relation to a house, which was the
former matrimonial home, and an order that she be
paid a lump sum by the husband a named amount,
$250,000, various other order& and injunctions.

The injunctions and other documents in this application have not been reproduced in the book

in their form as orders but it is apparently agreed
with the Registrar and certainly adopted by us
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that they are correctly set out in the book.

The injunctions which she obtained are set out

at page 2 of the book and they are, in short,

that companies which are described by the primary

judge here, Mr Just ice Nygh, a·s the "a 1 ter ego

of the respondent husband to the divorce proceedings",
be restrained in respect of the two companies,

Parts Master Pty Limited and Torumba Pty Limited,

from:

disposing of, charging ..... any of the assets

and undertakings of either of those two said

companies otherwise than in the normal course

of business.

entered on 13 June 1986.is described.

Those injunctions were granted on 30 July 1985. husband

It is described accurately and it is described

as being: ..

between Torumba as mortgagor, Denyllek

Investments~

the second applicant

as mortgagee, and the husband and Parts Master -

the second of the companies -

as guarantors in respect of a loan by

Denyllek to Torumba of $100,000 secured by

a charge over the assets of Torumba.

The deed also provided that in the event

of default by Torumba, Denyllek may appoint

in writing any person to be receiver and

manager of the business

and, Your Honours, the first and third applicants

were later appointed receivers and managers following

default by the borrower, Torumba, and purported

to sell the business.

That transaction, involving that deed, and

two prior ones were challenged before Mr Justice Nygh

under a section of the FAMILY COURT ACT which

gives power to set aside transactions in certain

circumstances. Mr Justice Nygh held that all

three transactions were a sham, sham transactions -

that appears from page 10 of the book-and set

them aside.

The Full Court held that His Honour was

in error in so holding - there not being evidence

to demonstrate that they were sham transactions -

and overturned the decision as to the first two

transactions so they are no longer relevant.

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But in the third one, the challenge to this deed

of June 1986, Their Honours held that it was

not in the ordinary course of business, hence

in breach of the injunction and, in any event,

was likely to defeat an anticipated claim by

the wife in the matrimonial proceedings.

Your Honours, those findings are set out between pages 45 and 50 of the book, and the reasons

for them. At page 45, Their Honours say:

that three issues arise in relation to the

1986 agreement, namely (a) was His Honour

correct in concluding that it was a "sham"

transaction -

they answered that in the negative.

(b) if not, was it in the normal course

of business?

Their Honours have said, in their view, yes; and, lastly:

(c) in any event, was it likely to defeat -

such a claim?

Your Honours, a combination of strange events led to the first and second applicants here taking

no part in the proceedings before Mr Justice Nygh.

They were served with some process late in the middle

of March 1987.

BRENNAN J:  Mr Foord, before you go on, those three questions

which are set out at page 45, are they the questions
which you seek to address on the special leave

application, or on appeal if special leave is

granted?

MR FOORD: Yes, Your Honour, the second and third.
MASON CJ:  The adverse findings on the answers to (b) and (c).
MR FOORD:  Firstly, Your Honour, we will want to say that
we have been denied natural justice in
beingdenied the opportunity to participate in
the proceedings - that is the first thing; the
second thing is that that, in combination with
an undue restriction on discretion to lead further
evidence on appeal, as combined with the first
ground to deny natural justice in that we have
not been heard and, thirdly, that on its true
construction section 85 does not apply to the
circumstances proved here and that section 85
requires, by reason of conflicting decisions,
namely this one and another decision of the Full

Bench of the Family Law Court, to have that difference resolved but, more importantly, the section to

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be defined and confined within proper limits by

a judgment of this Court.

DEANE J:  You will not like this question but could that

last question be isolated from the messy factual

issues involved in - - -

MR FOORD:  I certainly do not want to answer that in the
affirmative, Your Honour, but I daresay it could
be.  But not with proper - - -

DEANE J: If it were a last resort you would do so?

MR FOORD:  Indeed, but I respectfully submit, Your Honour,
not with a proper preservation of our rights.
DEANE J:  I see.
MR FOORD:  Your Honours, application is lodged in a form
which is simply headed, "Application", seeking
to have these transactions set aside. It was
supported by two affidavits.  Could I h~nd
Your Honours the materials, the statutory excerpts
and authorities on which we propose to rely.

MASON CJ: What is the application you are referring to?

The application to this Court or the application

to the Full Court of the -

MR FOORD:  No, the application before Mr Justice Nygh,
before all the trouble started, Your Honour.
MASON CJ:  Yes, I see.
MR FOORD:  Your Honours, while it is coming up, are well
familiar, of course, with the mode of application
in any court for intermediate or interlocutory
relief.  In so many courts created by statute
it is pursuant to a rule-making power in the
principal Acts.  A rule is made, usually providing
for people to apply on motion supported by affidavit
or by summons supported by an affidavit setting ·
out the facts.
MASON CJ:  Why have we been favoured with all this material?
There seem to be a number of authorities here.
MR FOORD:  You are only being favoured, Your Honour, with
a copy of Order 16 and, for some reason or other,
somebody has reproduced a lot more.  I did want
to show Your Honours Order 16.
MASON CJ:  We can cast aside all these authorities, can
we?
MR FOORD.  You probably can, yes.
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Your Honours, we have set out Order 16 in

detail, not that we want Your Honours to read

it through but rather to look at the form of

it and the plan setting it out. I will refer
to one of the individual rules. But there, this

Court is orovided by rules for the content of affidavits to be used in the various different applications. Litigation there is complex,

Your Honours, ranging over a wide variety of

subjects, and each one of the headings, the types

of proceedings in the Family Court, where interlocutory

applications are taken there, is made the subject

of a set of rules relating to the contents of

the affidavits that are to be filed in support

of such an application. They relate to all the

matters that Your Honours know about dealing

with the different types of family law litigation
but, in Division 3 of Order 16, rule 5 appears

which applies to this type of application - not

rule 5, I am sorry, Division 5, rather - applies

to other applications and I might just read that,

Your Honour. By rule 12 it is provided that:

An affidavit to which this Divisicrn applies

being the affidavit filed with the application

..... shall specify concisely, insofar as

relevant, and be confined to the matters

necessary to support the application -

this is the important part, Your Honour -

and to enable the issues to be defined.

That application and the affidavits in support

of it on the evidence, were taken by the first

applicant to his solicitor, Mr Byrnes, of Drummoyne.

Mr Byrnes is proved - - -

BRENNAN J:  We do not have that affidavit, do we, Mr Foord?
MR FOORD:  No, they are not reproduced, Your Honour, and
they are most voluminous. The subsequent history
is set out at page 41 of the leave book. It
starts at the middle of the page: 

He therefore advised his clients

not to appear and ..... he forwarded to the

wife's solicitors a letter of 1 April -

and it is set out fully in the book. Now, what
he says in the letter, in short, is this: "You
must allege that our client has entered into
some improper transaction". 

"No such allegation is made in the affidavit

of the applicant"-

and he goes on to say:

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"we advise that we do not intend to appear

at the proceedings tomorrow, but put you

on notice that if ..... for any reason"-

let us say, ..... one in the affidavit, "the

rules provide that if a stranger is to be brought

into this party, at least he ought to be told

why. There is nothing in those affidavits that

justified bringing us here; we will not be there."

Against that background, Mr Justice Nygh made the orders I have described.

BRENNAN J: That does not describe the full background,

does it? One of the things is, I take it, that

the party on the other side thought that the

rules were complied with and your party was given

sufficient notice and there was communication

between the solicitors.

MR FOORD:  That is apparently so, Your Honour, but it was
a conscious decision on our part not to participate.

BRENNAN J: Quite.

MR FOORD:  I must tell Your Honours that because when we
come to the fresh evidence point it is nearly
always a disqualifying matter that you made a
conscious decision to remain away - and we did.
We do not shrink from that.  The Full Court go
on, at page 42:

A further matter was mentioned by

Mr Byrnes in his affidavit,-

they have now gone on to the fresh evidence side

of it and I am hooing to deal with the two together,

for brevity as they overlap so much:

namely that in any event Mr Loder was to

be at Court under subpoena -
that is the first applicant. He was, of course,

sought to be drawn into litigation in which the

husband was the respondent. He had been subpoenaed

himself; he had every reason to believe,

we would suggest, on the material, that the named
respondent would litigate the matter and, in
the events that happened, the named respondent,
the husband, withdrew and an order was made
without either Loder or Denyllek being heard.
In fact, as Their Honours recite, at page 42,

Mr Byrnes thought that Mr Loder was to be at court and he expressed the view that;

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Mr Loder, when called, would be able to

explain the relevant matters as a witness

in the proceedings. As it turned out,

although Mr Loder was at Court under subpoena,

he was not in fact called and did not give

evidence.

Notwithstanding thit, he points out that he was

at court - the judges do not say "in court",

but:

As the transcript demonstrates, counsel

for the wife outlined her case with some

particularity including a clear description

of the nature of the case alleged against

Loder and Denyllek.

Of course, Loder and Denyllek were not represented.

As to that question of Loder not being called,

had he been called, of course, he would have

been in a position to deny that he had been a

party to any collusive dealings with tfris lady's

husband and, also, he could have given his own

account of his dealings.

When the appeal came on, affidavits were

produced to the Full Court - they being the affidavit
of Mr Byrnes, who is instructing us, and the

first applicant. Their Honours, at page 43,

refer to the usual authorities, MULHOLLAND V

MITCHELL being the most recent, and we take no

point there. That is accepted on this application

that the authorities have very short effect,
that where fresh evidence is sought to be led

it must be such that it could not, with reasonable

diligence, be produced below and probative of

some issue which will affect the fate of the

legislation.

The judges rely, at the bottom of page 43,
on this. They say:

The appellants, fully aware of the nature of the proceedings, in consultation with

their solicitors, made a clear decision

that they would not appear and that the

applicant would be unable to establish

her case. The facts which they now desire

to adduce are facts which were within their

knowledge at that time and were, as they

understood, significant to the determination

which was to take place on 2 April. The

appellants made a conscious and informed

decision to adopt a particular course.

As it now turns out they may have miscalculated.

That does not appear to us to be a reason -

et cetera.

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Your Honours, a miscalculation of that order,

we submit, is not one which incidentally affected the li.tigation in any way; it led to the absence of a party and a denial, we say, of a fundamental

right.

BRENNAN J:  How did your client become a party, Mr Foord?
MR FOORD:  By a process under the FAMILY COURT ACT of naming
him. and calling him an intervener and then the
judge, during the hearing of the interlocutory
matter, orders that he be made a party.
BRENNAN J:  Who named him as an intervener?
MR FOORD:  The applicant, Mrs Aysom, I think.
BRENNAN J:  In what proceeding or document?
MR FOORD:  That is by that document called an "Application"
which was filed supported by two affidavits and
I have it here, of 15 March 1987, which led to
the application to Mr Justice Nygh, which led
to the proceedings before him.

BRENNAN J: Was that served on your client?

MR FOORD:  Yes.
BRENNAN J:  And, according to its terms, did it require

your client to appear?

MR FOORD:  No, merely notifying him - purely telling him
of his right to appear, notifying him of the
orders which would be sought.

BRENNAN J: Against him?

MR FOORD:  Yes. I will get one out. It is a rather unusual

form, Your Honour.

BRENNAN J: Well, whatever the form is, if there was some

citation from the court giving notice to your
client that an order was to be sought under some

provision of the Act and specifying the kind

of relief that was to be sought against him,

why does not your client thereby become a party?

And, if he chooses not to appear, so be it.

MR FOORD:  He was advised, Your Honour, that he could not
be made a party.

BRENNAN J: Apart from whatever advice he was given by his

own solicitor, for which he must, I presume,

ultimately accept the responsibility, if he was

given notice of the order that was to be sought

against him and he chose not to appear, why are

we concerned to examine the reasons why he chose

not to appear?

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MR FOORD:  Your Honour, I do not have the application at the
moment.  I do not think he is named as a respondent
in the application; the application is directed
to the husband.  A copy of it was served on us.
At some stage in these proceedings - we have
a chronology here - he was made a party. When
he was made a party is obscure to me but - - -

BRENNAN J: Is it too simplistic to approach it in this

way: either your client was made a party to

the proceedings by being given notice of an intention

to apply for a particular order against him or

he was not?

MR FOORD:  Yes.

BRENNAN J. If he was so advised and he was a party and

if he chose not to appear, so be it; if he was

not so served with notice, or made a party, then

the order was made without jurisdiction?

MR FOORD; Your Honour, he was certainly not a party when
he was served; the only named respondent is
the husband. At some stage of the hearing before
Mr Justice Nygh, he has ordered that our client
be made a party.
MASON CJ: 
Mr Foord, can I ask you this:  I understand that
your client and Mr Bertoli were the accountants
for the husband?
MR FOORD:  Yes.
MASON CJ:  What order was sought against your client or
Mr Bertoli in the interlocutory proceedings?
Secondly, what orders were ultimately made against
them or either of them, and where do we find
them?
MR FOORD:  The orders sought are correctly set out on a
sheet of paper I have here and they were that: That the purported Deed of Charge -
to which I referred earlier -

be set aside .....

2. That the purported exercise by

Denyllek Investments Pty Limited of a purported

power of sale ..... be set aside .....

3. That Sidney Moore -

and the first and second applicants -

and the husband be restrained pending further

order from -

completing the sale.

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MASON CJ:  Do you have three copies of that document?
MR FOORD:  The exhibits in the Family Court were sent over;
it was exhibited - - -
MASON CJ:  Yes, but we can hardly be expected individually
to plough through the exhibits.
MR FOORD: 
Of course, Your Honour.  I will have it copied
as a matter of urgency.  The thrust of the orders
are set out at page 35 of the book, I am reminded,
Your Honours. There they are, that is exactly
what I would have had copied:  page 35 point 6.
MASON CJ:  Page 35.

BRENNAN J: Against whom were those orders sought according

to the terms of the document?

MR FOORD:  At that stage, when we were served with that
document, we were not a party.

BRENNAN J: When you say, "When we were served", for whom

are you now speaking?

MR FOORD:  Loder and Denyllek.
BRENNAN J:  For both?

MR FOORD: Applicants one and two.

BRENNAN J:  Were those persons served with a document?
MR FOORD:  Yes.
BRENNAN J:  Was the document addressed to them?
MR FOORD.  No, Your Honour, it was addressed to the respondent
husband.
MR HANDLEY:  Your Honours, I only have one copy but it is from

the Full Court appeal book and it shows that - I

believe it is accurate - the only respondent

is the husband.

MASON CJ: That seems to be so, Mr Handley.

MR FOORD:  Perhaps it should be shown to Mr Broun?

DEANE J: Mr Foord, the procedure, as Mr Justice Nygh saw

it, it set out in the two paragraphs quoted on

page 38 of the book.

MR FOORD: Yes, that is as he saw it. That is what I was

endeavouring to put without looking at the section

in answer to Your Honour Mr Justice Brennan a

while ago. At page 38 point 7·- - -
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DEANE J:  In other words, what His Honour says is that while

a person is not a party to the main proceedings,

if an application in the property proceedings

is served upon him and seeks orders against him,

he becomes a party. I am not saying that is

right, that is what His Honour says.

MR FOORD:  That is what he says, yes. Although His Honour
seems to think that the party served may thereafter
choose to intervene and then, by that process
only, he becomes a party.

DEANE J: That is not what he says he says:

to which a third party becomes a party as

a result of service upon him of an application

seeking relief of service upon him -

I suppose you would put a full stop after "relief".

MR FOORD:  Yes. So he has called him a party.

(Continued on page 13)

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DEANE J:  Mr Foord, while you have been interrupted, what

was the relationship, if any, between Denyllek and

the husband?

MR FOORD:  Denyllek had been lendin~ money to the husband

for some years and Denyllek ..... superannuation

funds and interest and he was a borrower from them.

DEANE J:  Was he a shareholder or a - - -
MR FOORD:  No, Loder and Bertoli, the first and third

applicants were the principal officers of Denyllek.

Now, then, to the fresh evidence points, if I may,

Your Honours. They begin at 39. The affidavits
sought to be produced were voluminous. They contained

an explanation of their failure to appeal - well,

that is clear enough from what has been said - evidence

.referable to the 86 agreement and the sale in

87 and evidence as to the ways in which the money

received from Moore,-he being the ultimate purchaser -

had been dealt with.

Now, Your Honours, if that evidence had been

received and acted on, it was sought to make it

appear that there was no collusive relationship

with the husband, that the sale was in the ordinary

course of business and, of course, if that be so

there is no breach of the 1985 injunctions nor anything
there to attract the provisions of section 85, that

is the setting aside of sham transaction section,

in respect of any existing order. They sought to

show in those affidavits that Denyllek and Loder
had been dealing with this man for years, the dealing

was in good faith and that the security taken by

Denyllek was a registered one, contrary to the

court's finding that it was something done in

secret without telling the wife and that interest

had been paid on the money borrowed, in other words,

it was a legitimate loan and, in fact, stamp duty

had been paid on the original document.

Now that being so, it is submitted that the decision to which the court came in relation to the

application in circumstances where a party had not
been heard below· unduly restricts the whole

concept of exercising discretion to allow fresh

evidence on appeal and restricts it to cases within

the more cormnon limit where evidence is discovered

after verdict or new material comes to light and

does deal adequately with the situation where even

a mistaken belief that he had no need to participate

in the litigation led to him not being there.

DEANE J:  But if what Mr Justice Nygh is quoted as saying
at page 38 is correct, is that not the end for you
on natural justice and so on? If it is not correct,
of course, the position is different, because His Honour
says that your client had become a party to the relevant
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proceedings which can be treated as separate

proceedings?

'MR FOORD:  Yes.

DEANE J: Well, now, if that is so your client was served,

took legal advice and elected to play no part. different?

'MR FOORD:  If technically, by some provision of this Act,

he can be declared or called a party and he did not

understand that, the result would be different,

we would submit, Your Honour.

DEANE J:  But assume that is so, that he is a party, against

him orders are sought, and he stays away because his

solicitor takes the view that they are not going to

establish the basis of getting the orders, he is in

big trouble, is he not, if he then says, "I want

to lead fresh evidence on the appeal." .If he is not

a party the position, of course, is obviously different.

I do not know what the basis of what Mr Justice Nygh

says but is that not something that stands at the

threshold, whether what His Honour says is right

or wrong?

'MR FOORD:  Your Honour, when the decision not to participate
was made he was certainly not then a party. It would

require some order, one would think, to make him

a party.

DEANE J:  Well, that may well be right but you have the Full

Court of the Family Court quoting that statement

with obvious acceptance of it. I would be rather

reluctant to differ from them without knowing what the basis

on which they say it is.

'MR FOORD:  Well, I know of nothing to justify the position

that service of a document, particularly in the names

of different parties, would draw somebody in as a

party without a conscious decision on their part

to join in the litigation.

MASON CJ:  Does the Act or the rules deal with the question

of parties in circumstances such as this, and if

so what are the provisions?

'MR FOORD:  I am not aware of any provision saying somebody

can be made a party without being served and named.

Service alone - - -

BRENNAN J:  Well, the document was served, was it not, whatever

document it was, on both of your clients on 20 March

and on Mr Bertoli on some date after 2 April? The

question is, what was served?

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MR FOORD:  Yes. Just that document Mr Handley handed

up, and the two affidavits, of course.

BRENNAN J: 

Yes, and that was a document addressed to the respondent, the husband?

MR FOORD: 

Yes, and the solicitor taking the view that they cannot be brought into that litigation unless the

rules are complied with  advised them not to go.
The rule is made under Order 14, Your Honour.
MASON CJ:  What page do we find it at in the book, the
Act and rules? I have got a mauve, somebody else

has a green one. Tell us what page it is in the

green book?

MR FOORD:  86 998 in the book that Your Honour Mr Justice Deane
has. Yes, the section deals with intervenors and
other parties, Your Honours. Now, if an outsider

wishes to intervene he must apply. Rule 4 seems

to apply to this situation.

MASON CJ:  Well, rule 4 seems a procedure designed to

give notice to a person who is not a party for
the purpos.e of enabling that person to apply to

intervene if that person wishes to do so.

MR FOORD:  That is right, yes. I do not know of any procedure

under this Act. There may be some family law experts

here who will tell Your Honours.

MASON CJ: 

Mr Foord, you might excuse us if we interrupt you and I might ask Mr Broun if he can throw some light

on this question as he seems to be the procedural
expert in matters of this kind.
MR BROUN:  Your Honours, I will immediately concede that the

practice and, indeed, the rules as to parties in

the family court are somewhat confusing and indeed

-- might be fairl.y said a bit of a mess. Your Honours,
an example may be found, I think, at page 12 of the the heading confuses everyone because the heading -
appeal book. The heading to all documents in fu.e
family court under the Family Court Rules does not
deal with who the parties are but simply deals with
what marriage is the subject-matter of the litigation. So the heading in the family court is unfortunately
quite misleading. We normally look to a heading to
see who the parties are. In the family court one
does not get that from the heading,one gets merely
what marriage is referred to. Sometimes, for example,
that will be the heading even though neither the
husband nor wife are parties to the proceedings ,
quite strangely;I had that happen once. The rules
as to other parties refer really only to the question
of a party who comes along to intervene out of a
desire of his own part to intervene in the proceedings.
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The practice in the Family Court has been that

if relief is sought against somebody other than the

husband or the wife, he is given notice of the relief

that is sought against him cormnonly by being served

with the application headed"In the marriage of'the
husband and the wife. In this case, of course,

as appears I think from page 35 of the appeal papers,

there was in the document served upon Mr Loder and

Denyllek Pty Limited, at the second half of that page,

the list of orders sought, which made it quite clear

what was sought against Mr Loder and Denyllek and,

indeed, the orders clearly set out what was asked

for, but there was no formal citation in the documents

served warning those persons that they were liable

to have orders made against them if they did not

appear.

DEANE J:  Well, now, what does it mean, Mr Broun, the next

page:

The application on its face was directed to

the husband.

MR BROUN: 

As Your Honours have seen on the first page of the formal part of the application, only the husband

was named as a respondent.
DEANE J:  Well, that is simply a reference to the heading,

is it not?

MR BROUN:  No, Your Honour. Underneath the heading - I think

we may have another copy of it in Court but Mr Handley's

copy was handed to Your Honours - are the lines,

"to the respondent" and then his name is given as

the husband, and his address, and then there are

some printed words, or typewritten in this case,

signed by the registrar warning him that if he

does not come along he is liable to have orders

made against him; the usual sort of citation one

is familiar with in a writ or a writ of summons.

DEANE J:  Well, then, should not Mr Loder and Denyllek have

been included with the husband there?

MR BROUN: 

Your Honour, for my part I would certainly agree

with Your Honour they should, it is just that there
is no provision in the rules for doing it.

DEANE J:  I was not expressing a view, I was just asking you.

MR BROUN: Well, Your,Honour, I would certainly submit that

they should but there is no provision in the rules

for doing so and, indeed, there is no mention in the

.rules anywhere of what you do with a respondent

against whom relief is sought who is, as it were,

a party to the proceedings in the sense that relief

is sought against him; he is notified or served

with the application; he is told what is going on

but none the less there is no provision in the

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rules of giving him something in the nature of a

citation.

DEANE J:  Is it a practice that if you are named in one of

the orders you can have an order for costs against

you?

:t-1:R BROUN:  If you turn up and defend or oppose.
DEANE J:  What if you do not turn up?
:t-1:R BROUN:  I cannot bring one to mind where it has happened

but I would imagine that would be possible,

Your Honour. But certainly, Your Honour, the

practice is that in fact these third parties in

this situation are not given anything in the document

in the nature of a citation to appear. Now, in

fact, in this case, of course, as Your Honours

have seen from the judgment, the position was a

little clearer in that not only was Mr Loder and

Denyllek served but they turned up on the first

mention date, 27 March. Mr Loder was actually

in court when the whole nature of the application was opened and the relief sought against Denyllek

and Mr Loder was explained orally in court. So

they had full notice in court in this case and

the Full Court refers to that in the course of their

judgment. And further, Your Honours, of course,

it appears from the letter my learned friend,

Mr Foord, has referred to that the advice given

by Mr Byrnes was not upon the basis that they were

not a party, it was on a·different basis.

MASON CJ:  I think you seem to be trespassing on the

invitation that was issued to you, Mr Broun.

:t-1:R BROUN:  I am. Yes, I apologize to Your Honours.
BRENNAN J:  Can I just ask one further question, Mr Broun?
:t-1:R BROUN:  Yes, certainly.
BRENNAN J:  Was there any document of any kind given to

Messrs Loder and Bertoli indicating an intention

to seek an order that they pay money?

:t-1:R BROUN:  That they repay the money, as it were, to Mr Moore?
BRENNAN J:  Repay, yes?
:t-1:R BROUN:  No, Your Honour. That was referred to, I think,

as one of the consequential things that might

follow in the oral opening on 27 March when Mr Loder

was in court, that is to say, the mention before
the hearding on 1 April and, indeed, that was one

of the points the Full Court have, I think, expressly

referred to in referring back to the trial judge

that question of the adjustment of finances

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between Loder, Bertoli and Denyllek on the other

hand and Sid Moore Racing on the other.

MASON CJ:  Yes, Mr Foord, well we seem · to have

circumnavigated that problem.

MR FOORD:  Your Honours, as to the fresh evidence we say

there was no reason whatever in the exercise of

discretion why that should not be looked at and

if it was, as seems to be agreed by the Full Court,

likely to affect the issue then no harm would have

been done in looking at it particularly as any

subtraction from writing, anybody else could be

corrected by an order for costs in the same assumpsit

way. Your Honours, as to the last matter we wish
to take up if leave 'be granted, special leave

rather, there is only this submission, that if

this $100,000 was lent to Torumba pursuant to that

deed of June 1986, then it was not the charge
granted by that deed that was likely to defeat

an anticipated order on behalf of the w~fe, if an order

be anticipated, but rather was it the handing over

of the money and the expenditure of that money by

or on behalf of Torumba.

To that effect, Your Honours, we submit, is

a decision of the Full Court of the Family Court

itself in AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND BANKING GROUP V

HARPER. That deals, firstly, with the question of

where the burden lies in these applications and

it is held, of course, to be on the moving party,

in this case, the wife. It there deals with a

similar problem where mortgage money was dissipated

via her husband, where a final order for monetary

provision had not been made and there it said of

that and prior cases that what the section requires

is an order to be anticipated, reasonably anticipated,

and that is to say an order, nor merely a claim.

Here, of course,there was a_cJ..aim ~ot vet defined for
a sum of money, not yet ascertained. ·
The words which require debate,if special

leave be granted, may we submit, anticipate in the

sense of whether it is objective anticipation or

one of the parties anticipated it, whether an order

that was likely to be interferred with ought before
then have been subjected to some quantification

and just what likelihood is required to exist. Now,

the word "likely" has been the subject of judicial

comment in many contexts; recently a federal court, of

which Your Honour Mr Justice Deane was a member,

in TILLMANS BUTCHERY AND OTHERS V AUSTRALIAN MEAT

INDUSTRY EMPLOYEES UNION, 27 ALR 367. At page 380

Your Honour Mr Justice Deane under the heading of

the word "likely" gave a couple of pages resume of

several of the contexts in which it has come up for

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construction. We submit this section, when

finally construed, would be given the meaning that that likelihood must be both proved and quantified

and if that is not done then any lending body dealing

with a borrower who currently has some matrimonial

problems is likely to be required to exercise a

degree of anticipation, which is quite unreasonable. She, for example, in relation to the charge of those Torumba shares - or a general charge rather over the property of the company - had not sought an order

that the business of that company be transferred to

her or the issue of shares and anticipation of any

likely final order would not readily go in that

direction. Therefore, we say, to resolve a conflict

which seems a real one between this and ANZ V HARPER,

and to have those matters debated, special leave

should be granted.

MASON CJ:  Yes. Thank you, Mr Foord. Yes, Mr Handley.
MR HANDLEY:  May I hand up a chronology, Your Honours, dealing

with the events so far as my client is c-0ncerned

and hand a copy down the bar table.

MASON CJ:  Can you convert chaos into coherence?
MR HANDLEY:  I am not sure, Your Honour, but our position is

different from that of our partner, Mr Loder, and

it is accepted by the Full Court that my client was neither rumed

as a party nor named in the relief at any time prior

to the final orders being made setting aside these

dispositions on 3 April. There is no dispute that

my client was neither notified nor served with any

process prior to 3 April 1987 and the Full Court

took the view that these orders did not prejudice

Mr Bertoli, did not sufficiently prejudice him

so as to attract any right to natural justice.

It is our submission that the orders clearly did prejudice Mr Bertoli. It is really self-evident,

we would submit, with respect, but in any event

eloquent proof of that is to be found in the fact
that the orders were subsequently extended against

him requiring him to pay, if my mathematics are

correct, a quarter of a million dollars, jointly

and severally with Mr Loder as set out in events

8 and 9 in our chronology. Your Honours, there is

a related - apart from the natural justice point,

which we submit does attract special leave because

of its fundamental nature and because of the
attitude of the Full Court of the Family Court

to orders setting aside transactions under section 85

so far as they effect third parties whose financial

and propriety interests are tied up with those

transactions - - -

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MASON CJ:  Now, these are covered in your grounds 4 and 5 on

page 89 in your draft notice of appeal.

MR HANDLEY:  I trust so, Your Honour. Well, particularly,

I think there is a "no" that has crept into prayer 6,

or ground 6; it should be "an order," not, "no

order." I am not sure that we would seek to press

the full width of grounds 4 and 5, Your Honour. They
arenot necessarily raised by this particular case.
DEANE J:  Mr Handley, is there a "not" left out of ground 4?
MASON CJ:  Yes, there is.
DEANE J:  "Are not a sham."
MR HANDLEY:  Yes.

DEANE J: Well, while we are dealing with these niceties, on

point 8 of your submission - - -

MR HANDLEY:  Of our chronology.

.

DEANE J: Of your chronology, yes, should the second-last word

be "nor"? Was he served with process or notified,

or was he - - -

MR HANDLEY:  No, the'not''is intended to run on, Your Honour.
DEANE J:  I see , 1•J:?Ot named, not served"- - -
MR HANDLEY:  - "or notified".
DEANE J:  I see.
MR HANDLEY:  Yes. It was probably a little late when I penned

that. There is a related point, Your Honours, which

also, in our submission, might be thought to add to
the case for special leave, and that is that the

Full Court of the Family Court seem to have taken

the view - although it is only perhaps an indication -

that a section 85 order setting aside a transaction,

does not operate retrospectively and, in our submission,

it does 4)" If it is .set' aside it is aside fromi nception, and that

is the point of the subsection(3)which requires the

court to make orders for the protection of bona fide

purchasers and other persons interested.

Of course, if the order only operated prospectively,

a bona fide purchaser could not be prejudiced by any

such order. He would have acquired an interest prior to
the court order being made. Can I just invite the
Court to - - -
DEANE J:  When you say in your chronology 10, '' Orders made against
Bertoli," after 9, what opportunity did he have at
stage - or between 9 and 10  of disputing, so far as
he was concerned, what had gone before?
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MR HANDLEY:  Your Honour, it does not - I cannot answer that

question. But Mr Bertoli, for reasons,again,which
are the subject of fresh evidence but which were not
received by the Full Court, did not appear on the 29th,

either in person, or by counsel or solicitor.

DEANE J: Well, I mean, if the proceedings had been somewhere

else, in an area that I am more familiar with, I would
have expected, if Mr Bertoli had come along between

9 and 10 -

MR HANDLEY:  Indeed, Your Honour.
DEANE J:  - - - sorrebody seeking an order against him he could make them go
all the way back to square one.
MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour. What was done by Mr Bertoli was

not to take any steps between 9 and 10,but, when

served with the order made on 29 April to appeal to

the Family Full Court and it appears from this

Court's decision in TAYLOR V TAYLOR,143 CLR 1, that

one is entitled to do that without necessarily going

back and seeking to vacate the order at first

instance.

DEANE J: It makes it a bit more difficult to fight something on natural justice grounds at first instance if you

take the approach that the solicitor seems to have

taken right from the beginning - - -

MR HANDLEY:  A different solicitor, Your Honour.

DEANE J: Well, the original solicitor seems to have taken; that is,

"If something goes wrong -we will appeal. "
MR HANDLEY:  Yes .. ·W:11, Your Honour, as far as my client is

concerned, in our submission, we were finally and

completely denied natural justice on 3 April 1987 and

we were not obliged to apply to the judge to set it

aside. We could appeal and that is what we have done.

We may have misjudged our remedy but final orders

should not have been made, in our submission, setting

aside these transactions under section 85 without us

being notified and given a reasonable opportunity

to appear and make representation, or make submissions,

and one does not comply with natural justice by
making final orders and then saying to a party

affected by them, "Well, you could always apply to

set them aside."

DEANE J: Yes.

BRENNAN J:  Mr Handley, the whole debate of natural justice

in the context of a judicial proceeding of this kind,

seems to me to be a little odd.

MR HANDLEY:  Indeed, Your Honour.
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BRENNAN J: 

You do not seem to raise, in your grounds of appeal, so far as I can see, any question as to whether the judicial power of the Commonwealth can

be exercised as against a party who has no citation.

MR HANDLEY: Well, Your Honour, we did not think we had to go

as far as that. We were simply denied natural
justice, ground 3. We were going to suggest that -

ground 3 - is at the top of page 89.

BRENNAN J: For myself, I have difficulty in understanding how

a problem of natural justice arises in the case of

a party who might not be liable to have any order

made gainst him.

MR HANDLEY: Well, Your Honour, the fact is that in the

result final orders were made which seriously prejudiced our

proprietary and financial rights without any notification.

BRENNAN J:  I appreciate that.
MR HANDLEY:  We did not deem it necessary to look at the

constitutional considerations. It did occur to us

BRENNAN J; It may be that natural justice extends both to

the notice of any application as well as the evidence

that is adduced on it.

MR HANDLEY:  I would so submit, Your Honour, but it did occur

to us that perhaps one might construe a requirement

of natural justice into section 85, but that did seem to

us to be a task of supererogation. Parliament was not
laying down natural justice for the Family Court

in section 85 as a matter of a statutory duty. It assumed that the Court would comply with that as a

court, established as a superior court of record

established by, I think, at section 21 or whatever

it is, flows from that, not from the actual text of

section 85.

We would submit, Your Honour, that chapter 3

judicial power cannot be exercised in a final form

against a party or a person without natural justice

being complied with, but we had not deemed it necessary

to go as far as that.

MA.SON CJ:  Now, Mr Handley, in the light of the corrrrnents made

by Justice Brennan, with reference to the possible

existence of a jurisdictional ground as an alternative

to ground 3, and also to your corrrrnents that

grounds 4 and 5 may be a little wide or not accurately

put what you want to put in relation to - - -
MR HANDLEY:  They are ambit claims, Your Honour.
MA.SON CJ:  They are ambit claims.and, also the question of

relation back in relation to the order made under

section 85, it may be opportune if you give

consideration to reframing the grounds stated in the

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draft notice of appeal between now and when the

Court resumes after lunch. In saying that, I am

not suggesting for one minute that the Court has

reached even a preliminary view about the outcome

of this application, but it would be more convenient

for us if we could see precisely what the grounds are that you would propose to argue in the event of

special leave being granted.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour. I am not sure that anything

will survive on grounds 4 and 5 other than the
reference to this question of relation back under

the section 85 order.

MASON CJ:  Yes. Well, that is one thing I had in mind, but I

think grounds 4 and 5 ought to be reformulated so

that they state quite precisely what it is that is

going to be argued.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes.

MASON CJ: Might I suggest that, in giving consideration to

the grounds of appeal in the draft notice, you
consult with Mr Foord, because it seems that there
is little difference in the two cases that would

be presented if special leave were granted.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour. Your Honour was a party to

the case of TAYLOR V TAYLOR which has not been drawn
the Court's attention in Mr Foord's matter, but

there the husband, Taylor, served with process,

took it to his solicitor; thought his solicitor was

going to look after it; the solicitor did not;

ex parte orders were made by the Supreme Court of

New South Wales. When he became aware of those orders

he applied to have them set aside under the

FAMILY LAW ACT. The wife went to the wrong court

on the return date of the husband's application, so

then Mr Justice Hogan of the Family Court set asi(le

the orders of Mr Justice Woodward in the supreme court

in the absence of the wife through another miscarriage,

and this Court said that neither - both parties had

been denied natural justice without any fault of their

own, and sent the matter back for a rehearing.

There was an argument put - accepted in the

Full Court - that the order should not be set aside and both parties ought to be left to pursue their

remedies against their solicitors, but this Court

did not take that view, with the exception of

Mr Justice Murphy. But I have copies, if the

Court would be interest to glance at the headnote,

perhaps, of that case. ·
MASON CJ:  Yes, you can hand them in, Mr Handley.

MR HANDLEY: 

Your Honours, we .would submit that the reasons given by the Family Court for not holding or for

denying an entitlement in our client to have the
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orders of 3 April set aside are not such as to

command immediate intellectual acceptance. At

the bottom of page 54, at the start of the last

paragraph, the Full Court says that:

No order was made against him personally

on that day.

Then at the top of page 55, Mr Grieve contended

that:

Orders 1 and 2 setting aside the 1986 and
1987 transactions did have, or may have,

an adverse effect upon Bertoli and ought

not to have been made without notice to him.

They say:

It is difficult to see how the first order

(setting aside the -

debenture -

.

could have that consequence since for

relevant purposes it set aside the agreement

entered into by Denyllek which had been

properly served.

To say that the mortgagee has been properly served,

in our submission, does not answer the thrust of

the complaint that Mr Bertoli makes. I will come
to that in a moment: 

Order No. 2 purported to set aside the sale

by Loder and Bertoli as receivers -

and one would think it was crystal clear that that

order affected Mr Bertoli financially so far as

his proprietary interests were concerned:

had a relevant interest in that order It was Mr Grieve's submission that Bertoli

which required him to be given notice, and

this point is given emphasis by the

amendment which we have made to that order.

He submitted that the consequence may be that

Bertoli may be treated as a trespasser in

relation to the business or its property

and that the order may have a retrospective

effect so as to in some other way to prejudice

him. It is possible that an order setting

aside the transactions as shams may have the

potential to produce such a consequence.

Of course, Your Honours appreciate shams do not have

to be set aside:

We do consider, however, that the orders would

have -

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I think there is a "not" been left out

We do not consider that the orders would have any such prejudicial effects so far

as Bertoli is concerned.

In our submission, Your Honours, with respect, that

is just wrong:

which had been served ..... Bertoli was acting

The parties to the deed had been served.

as the agent of Torumba in the sale and

Torumba had been served.

None of those considerations, in our submission,

meet the point, that Bertoli was entitled to be

served. Finally:

Mr Grieve further submitted that the

reservation of leave to apply for orders

similar to those made against Loder also

prejudiced Bertoli. We do not think that
that is so.

Your Honours, if that reservation had not been

made, in our submission, Mr Bertoli would have had
an ANSHUN V PORT OF MELBOURNE AUTHORITY - an

ANSHUN point against any fresh application being made against him for a final order similar to the order already made against his partner. The wife, by

keeping alive her rights against Mr Bertoli in

this way, prevented such a result and, in our

submission, Mr Bertoli was prejudiced by that

reservation of leave.

DEANE J:  Was Torumba Pty Limited served?
MR HANDLEY: Yes, Your Honour. At least - sorry - I do

not know, Your Honour, but the Full Court seemed

to think it was.

DEANE J: If it was, is not that relevant to what you say in

that if the company that appointed him was a receiver

and of which he is a director and apparently
co-proprietor, and the company to which he was

appointed receiver, were both served, it takes a

lot of the force away from discussions of natural

justice when,before the final orders against him

were made, he was served and had an opportunity of

challenging everything but elected not to do so.

MR HANDLEY: Well, Your Honour, he did not have an opportunity

to - he was not - I have the document here that he

was served with. He was not told he had an opportunity

to move to set aside the orders of 3 April.

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DEANE J:  Yes, except if you get something that is seeking an
order against you that you would be personally liable.
MR HANDLEY:  He was told that he was facing orders of personal

liabilty.

DEANE J:  I would have thought he would get some advice and
be told that he could oppose it and, if he does not,
is that not his problem, in terms of natural justice?
MR HANDLEY:  It is his problem so far as the fresh orders on

29 April are concerned. In my submission, it is the

other party's problem, so far as the orders of

3 April are concerned. I mean, what is being put

to me now by Your Honour comes to this, in my

submission: that you do not deny natural justice to

a party, if you make final orders against him in

his absence, because he can always apply to you

to have them set aside. Now, that is not the way the

common law has moved, Your Honours, and we have

statement from this Court in the DELTA.PROPERTIES
case which make it very clear that you are entitled

to be heard before an opinion is formed and expressed.

That is the view taken in the United States under due

process, as well; that a right to go back and try

and change someone's mind after final orders have been

made does not accord due process and, in our

submission, that would be a view which this Court

would think either was correct or sufficiently

arguable to warrant special leave.

DEANE J:  But assume for the moment that he was fully informed
and fully understood all these obscure procedures
when he was served and he said, "There is no order
made against me; here is somebody who is applying
for an order against me.  I am fully entitled to go
along and resist that and make them go right back to
have gone this far without me, I will just stand back
square one, but, because I do not think they should
and let these·legal proceedures come to an end
with orders against me and I will then appeal."
It does not seem to me to be a very attractive
approach to say, "Well, natural justice will then say
that the orders that the Court made are hopelessly
affected by a denial of natural justice."
MR HANDLEY:  Your Honour, in my submission, under the rules of

natural justice, he should never have been put in

that position in the first place with regard to

the orders of 3 April and Your Honours do not know

what his fresh evidence was about what he did when

he got the application dated 21 April returnable on

29 April but, in our submission, TAYLOR V TAYLOR

demonstrates that he was not obliged to go back;

he was entitled to appeal if he so chose. It is not

as if he comes here for prohibition; he had gone to

the Full Court to have matters set right.

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BRENNAN J:  Mr Handley, whose money was it that was paid
by Sid Moore Racing to the accountants? On whose
behalf did they receive it?
MR HANDLEY:  Your Honours, the receivers were appointed as

private receivers under an equitable mortgage,

equitable charge debenture. Now they received it

as agents for the mortgagor, which was, of course,

Torumba Pty Limited. They did not receive it as

agents for the mortgagee because, as private

receivers, under the traditional - at least, if

there is not evidence of this, this would be the

inference that the Court would automatically draw,

that it would have been a conventional Australian

debenture under which receivers are appointed as

agents for the borrower.

BRENNAN J:  And you say that Torumba was treated as a party

to these proceedings.

MR HANDLEY: 

Torumba was, apparently, treated as a party to these proceedings.

But that is the point I am about

to come to, Your Honours, that the fact ·that the

principal is prejudiced and is notified does notmean

that you do not have to serve the agent if he is ·
going to be ersonally and directed affected.
We point out that the setting aside of the equitable
charge by the orders made on 3 April, we submit,
prejudiced Bertoli by retrospectively avoiding his
appointment as receiver and manager, making him
liable to Torumba Pty Limited and its election,
either as an agent or as trespasser, just as you
can ratify a tort of conversion and sue for money
h&d and received, Torumba could treat him as -

waive the tort and treat the receivers as agents,

or they could treat the receivers as trespassers. -

..deprived of remuneration received or

otherwise receivable and expose him to liability

under uncompleted contracts of the business with

other parties which bound him personally under

section 324(1) of the COMPANIES CODE.

Your Honours are aware, of course, that for

many years - I think since 1936, ·but certainly

since 1961 - receivers, private receivers, are

personally liable on their engagenents by statute.

The consequential orders made by Mr Justice Nygh

on 3 April included the appointment of the wife as
court receiver of Torumba, able to exercise its

rights, enforce its rights against the former

receivers. Probably the setting aside of the

equitable charge automatically brought down the
contract for the sale of thebusiness but, in any

event, this ~ontract for the sale of the business was

expressly set aside. The setting aside of that
contract with retrospective effect, we submit,
also exposed Bertolito a liability to make

restitution under the general law without any actual

orders of the Family Court being made to that effect.

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In any event, he was, of course, exposed to potential

future liability under the consequential orders made
against Loder should they be extended against himself.

So, Your Honours, in our submssion, the applicant was directly and personally prejudiced by the orders without any

prior notice to him. They were, of course, final
orders. He was not prejudiced merely in the sense

that he was a servant of Torumba; a receiver appointed

as agent for the borrower is a very special sort of agent who has rights, obligations and duties of his

own; duties in regard to.-under his contracts and so

on, sometimes duties under tax laws, · nor was he
affected merely as a shareholder of Denyllek. He was
affected directly and personally. So it is not to

the point, in our submission, that his principal was

served or that a company of which he was a shareholder

was served.

May we just remind Your Honours of what this Court

said in DELTA PROPERTIES about the entitlement to

prior notification before opinions are formed and

expressed. It is 95 CLR 1 at 18 and although

Their Honours were speaking of natural justice as
an incident of the administration of an administrative

process, the language applies, in our submission,

a fortiori.to chapter 3 courts. It is about point 5

on the page:

In such a situation the law insists, according

to long-established doctrine, that the step

which will have that prejudicial effect, namely

the formation and expression of the opinion,

requires for its efficacy the prior observance

of the fundamental principles of natural

justice. In particular it is essential that

the person whose property is in question must be

given a full and fair opportunity of placing

before the council his case against the formation

of the opinion.

I have not troubled Your Honours with United States

authority, but it has been said there that an

opportunity to come back and seek to reverse a

decision already formed and expressed does not

accord with due process and, in our submission, the

cormnon law in this country would be the same.

Subject to tidying up the orders -the grounds of

appeal -they would he our submissions. May we hand

up copies of the application which I showed the

Court earlier, from the Full Court appeal book?

If the Court pleases.

MASON CJ: Thank you, Mr Handley. Yes, Mr Broun.

MR BROUN:  Your Honours, may I refer firstly to this question
of the absence of a citation or the lack of notice

of the kind that we are more used to in other

jurisdictions, the formally prescribed notice

required by the rules. This question, of course,

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did not arise before the Full Court at all. The

reason, in substance, why it did not arise, is

because, in relation to the documents served, there

was something, as it were, to replace the absence

of a citation, namely, my instructing solicitor served

on Mr Loder and Torumba Pty Limited and on Denyllek

Pty Limited, and on the other company involved,

I think, Parts Master Pty Limited - served a covering

letter with the application in each case, the

covering letter giving some warning. Now, Your Honours,

I do not have in court - my instructing solicitor has

gone to get copies of those affidavits which were

before the Full Court - but, in effect, as I recollect

it, the covering letter advised the person served

that there was a claim made against them and that the

clairr needed to be considered or advice taken
about it.

I have in court at the moment, for example, the

one served upon Mr Bertoli on 7 April, which sets out

that the application - it was listed on 10 April;

that it was for the hearing of such applications as

he may be advised to make in relation to the orders

and, in relation to additional orders "which will

be sought against you, as indicated in the orders

served herewith, may we respectfully suggest

that you communicate with your legal advisers as a

matter or urgency." Now, that was the typical sort

of covering letter served in each case.

MASON CJ:  What were the orders indicated as sought against

him?

MR BROUN: Well, the ooctma1ts- served on him on 10 April was a

sealed copy of the orders made by Mr Justice Nygh
on 3 April, which are in the appeal papers; those-

indicating at the end of those orders that there

was liberty to make an application for orders in

similar terms against Mr Bertoli. So that the

document served on Mr Bertoli says, "Here is the orders

m.de against Mr Loder and Denyllek; we draw your

attention to the fact that the same orders are
sought against you. It is listed for 10 April.

You have the opportunity of making any application

you wish and on that we suggest you should see your

legal advisers about it."

So that there was something to replace the

absence of a rule about the service of a formal

citation, namely, a covering letter saying, go and

get advice about this; orders are sought against you.

In respect of Mr Bertoli, that is to say, Mr Handley's

client, there was, in fact, two opportunities, not

one. It was listed on 10 April and he was served

with notice of that on the 7th. It was also then,

on 10 April, adjourned because the service had been

a little late and it was then adjourned to 29 April

and, pursuant to Mr Justice Nygh's directions, he

was again served and again there was a covering letter

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telling him that the matter had been stood over

to 29 April and the details of what was going to be

dealt with on that day. It ended up, "In addition,

we advise you that the application for orders

against you personally, both as to the moneys paid

by Sid Moore Racing and costs, are listed for

29 April." So that, as to Mr Bertoli, he got served

not with one, but with two and warnings that he

should turn up on the two different return dates

and each time was specifically warned by the

covering letter of the orders that were sought

against him.

Now, Your Honour, my recollection is and

my instructing solicitor has gone to get it, that

the covering letter served upon each of the companies

originally before the first hearing, contained that

same warning; that"The orders are sought against

you, seek legal advice, this is the date it is on."

Indeed, the letter from Mr Byrnes to the court,

which has been referred to, the letter, .in effect,

sayin& "If the c,ourt is so ill-advised as to make

orders on this evidence, well, we will appeal, and

obviously our appeal will succeed." That letter

does not suggest that he was not aware that orders

were being sought against Mr Loder and Denyllek

but rather suggests that they had an answer to that

application, namely, the shortness of notice.

MASON CJ:  But still, it is a revolutionary development,

is it not, to equate solicitors' letters to originating

process for orders against a party?

MR BROUN:  Your Honour, the absence of this provision about

parties who are joined by the applicant, rather than

a party who intervenes in the Family Court rules has

been something that has been commented on many times,

but ;it has been the position now for 12~ 13 years.

It has never been seen fit to rectify it, presumably

because the vast bulk of litigation of that court,

of_course,, is just between husband and wife, and the

applications where there are other parties involved

are relatively small in number.

MASON CJ:  But that is where it becomes extremely important.
MR BROUN: 
Your Honour, yes.  The rules, of course- since the

occurrence of these events, the rules have changed

fairly materially because there is a whole new
_Fart VII now covering ex-nuptial children and,

accordingly, the rules as to other parties have been

somewhat drastically modified and, indeed, the

headings are now different, so that the heading of
the citation now provides for notice to the other
people. So the rules have, in fact, been changed
quite recently, I think, from 1 July this year.

So that it is not a continuing problem, but it

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certainly has been a serious problem and it was in

the rules as a serious problem for a considerable

time. The practice, in fact, Your Honours, has been

largely that the trial judge sought to satisfy

himself in each case that the other party - if I

might call them that without wishing to seem to beg

any question - the person against whom relief was

sought who was not a party to the marriage had notice,

was aware that the order was sought against him and
was aware of the proceedings and what might occur

in consequence.

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MR BROUN (continuing):  Now, Your Honours there were a number

of other important factual matters before the

Full Court which, perhaps, explain why these problems

were not raised before the Full Court. One of them,

and it is referred to briefly in the Full Court's

judgment, was that Mr Loder and Mr Bertoli were

themselves signatories to the relevant documents.

Mr Loder was secretary of the husband's companies,

Torumba and Parts Master; he was their accountant.

Mr Bertoli had, in fact, signed the original document

of charge, what has been referred to as the equitable

mortgage document. He signed that as witness to

the husband's signature and also he was the director
of Denyllek who signed that document.

Now, Mr Bertoli, Your Honours, was therefore in the odd position that although there may have

been not a letter addressed to him - and he personally

received the documents before the hearing, the first

hearing - he was a director of Denyllek and he received

notice that way. Further, Your Honours, we would

rely on section 16 of the New South W~les

PARTNERSHIP ACT which we drew the attention of the

Full Court to though it did not find favour with the Full Court. Section 16 of the New South Wales

PARTNERSHIP ACT is the common sort of provision

which says if you have partners who are carrying

on business and doing something in the course of their partnership then service on one is service
on both. If I may hand to Your Honours copies of

section 16 of the New South Wales PARTNERSHIP ACT.

Now, the important point here perhaps,

Your Honours, is that it appears that the partnership

was the people appointed, the liquidators, not

Mr Bertoli in his personal capacity or Mr Loder
in his personal capacity because the letter in which

Mr Loder informs for the first time of the appointment

refers to "our firm has been appointed". Now that
is at appeal book 33. The letter is set out on

page 33 of the appeal book - that is the numbers

at the bottom of the page:

On 5 February Messrs. Loder and Bertoli

wrote to Sid Moore Racing a letter in the

following terms -

and it was a letter on the letterhead of the

partnership and it says:

"This letter is to advise that our firm has

been appointed manager and receiver"

and it does seem that throughout the firm of

Loder and Bertoli they were the only partners.

They were occupying the same office, indeed, as

I understand it they still do. And it is a little
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odd, perhaps, that two partners who are still in

partnership dealing with a partnership problem,

not between themselves, are here by separate

solicitors and separate counsel. But, none the less

they are partners. This acting for Mr Aysom and

his companies, Parts Master and Torumba, they did

as a partnership enterprise. Denyllek was a firm of which it seems they were the two directors and the two shareholders and it does, perhaps, seem

a little odd that there is any question about service

on one not being adequate notice to the other

particularly when section 16 of the PARTNERSHIP ACT

expressly says so. It says - - -

MASON CJ:  We have managed to read it, Mr Broun.
MR BROUN: 
Thank you, Your Honour.  Your Honours will see that
where it is dealing with a partnership matter service
on one is adequate anyway.  Your Honours, we would
also submit that this is not a good case in which
to raise the absence of any citation or formal
irregularities because this is a case where, on
the facts, the Full Court was satisfied, indeed
it would seem that everybody was satisfied before
the Full Court, but Your Honours would also, in
our submission, be satisfied when Your Honours see
the affidavits of service and the like that, in
fact, all of the relevant persons - using the word
distinct from parties - knew what orders were sought
against them, knew when the matter was listed, knew
what the claim was and, indeed, had been served
with copies of all of the affidavits so that they
knew what the evidence was.
DEANE J:  Except the Full Court does not seem to have addressed

the fact that the document that was served - this

one

MR BROUN:  Yes - one of the documents served, Your Honour.
DEANE J:  - - - was calculated to cause any lawyer without

knowledge of Family Court in-house procedures, as

it were, to be absolutely misled as to what was

involved in that a non-family court lawyer consulted

about this document would tell his client he did
not have to worry because not being a party to the

proceedings or named as a respondent no order could

be made against him. And he might even go further

and say that in that court since they never make

orders tor costs, usually, you better stay away.

MR BROUN:  Your Honour, I think the answer to that is, first
of all, if one looks at the substance of the orders
sought then - - -
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DEANE J:  But that is the point. You see, if this was a

procedure in the supreme court in e~uity and it

was taken to counsel he would say, 'Those orders

you do not have to worry about because you are not

a party and they cannot be made against you".

MR BROUN:  With respect, Your Honours, I would doubt whether
that would be so.  One would think that the advice would
be that the cautious thing to do is to turn up and
suggest that they ought to be joined.

DEANE J: Maybe, but if the lawyer was giving advice as to

the legitimate possibilities in proceedings between

strangers in which his client was not named as a

party and not served as a respondent, that would

be the advice that he would give: that those orders

cannot properly be made against you.

MR BROUN: 

Well, Your Honour, the question is, what really does the notion of being named as a party mean?

I would submit, Your Honours, that, essentially,
being named as a party means that relief is sought
against one and it is plain that one has a right
to defend or oppose that relief sought against them.

DEANE J: You see, look at this document, it says, "To the

respondent" and it then contains a number of warnings

and advices for things that can be done, all confined

to the respondent. It is only the respondent who

is told he can raise new issues, come along, defend,

file affidavits and so on.

MR BROUN:  That is so, Your Honour. Yes. That printed part

of the form does only direct -

DEANE J: Now, all I put to you, Mr Broun, is that this document

is of a kind which would almost certainly mislead

any lawyer without knowledge of the in-house

procedures of the Family Gourt.

MR BROUN: Well, Your Honour, I would submit not because the

lawyer being cautious, wise and concerned to protect

his client's interests would turn to what orders

were sought and they are clearly directed against

the relevant parties, except Mr Bertoli was not

expressly named in them, so he is different. But
his partner was and a company of which he is a

director was and it is clearly set out what relief

is sought and further, of course, there was, in

fact in this case, a covering letter saying, "Here

is a document, orders are sought against you, get

advice". So that although, Your Honour, I would

for my part suggest that the Family Court Rules

ought to have made much clearer provision in the

forms for the warning to a person against whom relief

was sought, in fact in this case no injustice was

done because there was the factual warning done

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and all the right things were done to make sure that the person against whom relief was sought,

who in the ordinary sense, in my submission, is

a party is given notice that the relief is sought

against him and is given the opportunity to do

something about it.

DEANE J:  I have probably been obscure but why I was directing

your attention to that is that it seems to me that

apart from that point what is involved here in the

natural justice desired appeal is an invitation

to this Court to rehash all the facts that the

Full Court has dealt with and that it does not appear

to me that there is any great question of law

involved. But what I was suggesting to you was

that the problem with that approach is that the

Full Court seems to have ignored the problem raised

at the outset by the Family Court's own document.

Now, I was putting it to you in the context of a special leave application.

MR BROUN:  Your Honour, that certainly was not dealt with by
the Full Court expressly because it was never raised
before them.

DEANE J: Well, that may be the answer.

MR BROUN: It was never the subject of any debate and, indeed,

it does - - -

DEANE J:  The misleading nature of the document or a suggestion

that people had been misled by procedures was never

mentioned in the Full Court?

MR BROUN:  No. And, indeed, we would submit that it is clear

why it was not ever raised because the affidavits

of service and, indeed, the very documents annexed
to the affidavits which were relied upon in support

of the application to lead fresh evidence included

were aware of what the proceedings were about. those covering letters and made it clear that they
So that was, presumably, why it was never raised.

Your Honours, we would also suggest to

Your Honours that this would be a very bad case

in which to raise that issue because of the way
in which both Mr Loder and Mr Bertoli chose to conduct

the matter at first instance. We would refer to

the decision of this Court on a special leave

application called NOMINAL DEFENDANT V NILON on

which, I think, Your Honour the Chief Justice sat,

but the other members of the present Bench were

not engaged - it was merely published as a sort

of practice note, I think - but the point was made

that the conduct of the case in the courts below

may preclude the granting of special leave to appeal

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notwithstanding that an important question arises

or may be discerned. The matters we would point

to in this case, of course, were the deliberate

decision of Mr Loder not to attend despite the fact
that he had been served with notice, he knew that

the claim was being made, he was actually in court when the matter was opened initially in March and,

indeed, on that morning he had been represented

by a different solicitor, Mr Nicholas Loder, who

had withdrawn from the proceedings and arranged

for another solicitor to take over.

So, we would suggest, relying on that

NOMINAL DEFENDANT V NILON, that the mess that this

case has got into by reason of those decisions taken

by the present applicants for leave is a reason,

and a just reason, for refusing special leave even

if there was a substantial point.

Your Honours, some other matters we would refer to, particularly in answer to my learned friend

Mr Foord, is that we would submit that this is largely

a matter of fact and discretion and that really

as to the questions about section 85 there is not
really any substantial issue of fact to be developed
because the Full Court have held that the facts

of this case fitted within two limbs of section 85.

There were transactions which did, in fact, defeat

an existing order and section 85(1), if I may take

Your Honours to it, says that:

In proceedings under this Act, the court may

set aside or restrain the making of an instrument

or disposition by or on behalf of, or by direction
or in the interest of, a party, which is made
or proposed to be made to defeat an existing

or anticipated order in the proceedings or

which, irrespective of intention, is likely

to defeat any such order.

Now, the Full Court put it under two headings.

They said it did defeat an existing order, namely,

the injunction restraining the husband from entering

into any such transaction as the instrument of loan

in 1986 and, secondly, irrespective of its intention

it was likely to defeat an anticipated order because

the evidence before the trial judge and the Full Court

was clear that really there were only two assets

that the husband and wife had. The main asset was

this business conducted through these two companies

of which the husband was the shareholder and a small

equity in the ma:trim::mial home. And the wife's claim

was particularly based upon her contributions to

that business. So that essentially the thrust of

the section 79 case was that she had made over the years of marriage an important contribution to the development of that business by her years of work

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in it over the whole of the marriage - substantial
part of the marriage - and, secondly, the claim

in respect of the much smaller asset, the small

equity in the home.

Now, obviously something which, in effect,

wiped out the business and removed it altogether

from the sphere of the court's interest would be
likely to defeat the wife's claim. So there was

no real issue about those factual matters because

of the simple factual situation which arose. I

can give Your Honours any of the documents that

Your Honours may require, I believe, for example

the transcript of 27 March when Mr Loder was in

court and heard an opening as to what the whole

case was about and what claim was being made against

Mr Loder and Mr Denyllek and the fact that he was

in court is actually noted in the transcript. But
unless there is any other particular matters to

which I may assist Your Honours on the facts, those
would be our submissions.

BRENNAN J:  Mr Broun, under the order of the Full Court varying
the order of Mr Justice Nygh, what are the present

orders which affect Mr Loder and Mr Bertoli personally?

MR BROUN:  Your Honour, there are not any at the moment because
the Full Court has sent back to the trial judge
the question of the financial adjustment between
Mr Loder and Mr Bertoli on the one hand and
Sid Moore and Sid Moore Racing on the other. That
is, in effect, not a matter that now arises because

the Full Court has referred that back to the trial judge. So Mr Loder and Mr Bertoli are not, at the moment, the subject of anything that could put them

out of pocket though, no doubt, they see themselves as being at grave risk because of the setting aside of the transaction but one would have thought they

must have a right of indemnity from the party that
appointed them, Denyllek, and, presumably, they
would have some claim against the funds that they
received from Mr Moore or Sid Moore Racing. So
that, at the moment, in our submission, the only
matter about which Mr Bertoli and Mr Loder really
have a matter of concern is the risks that the
situation has placed them in rather than any present
order.
MASON CJ: 
Yes.  Thank you, Mr Broun. Yes, Mr Bennett.
MR BENNETT:  May it please the Court, we oppose the grant of

special leave. It is my submission that there are

a number of reasons why this case is not a

convenient vehicle for any point in relation to

natural justice to be tested in this Court. It

involves, first of all, an extraordinary combination

of circumstances both background and litigational

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and a large number of them are directly relevant

to natural justice which are unlikely to arise in

other cases. One is the question of the extent

to which a covering letter deals with, or mitigates

against, any denial of natural justice caused by

the failure directly to refer to a matter in

originating process.

A second is, the application of the

PARTNERSHIP ACT and its provisions about service

in a situation where a partnership is appointed

as receivers and the question whether in that

situation service on one partner is sufficient as

against both. There is a question of agency; the

extent to which service on the principal of matters

can be treated as notice to the agent. Perhaps

over all those there is the more general one and

the more general one has two aspects. The first

is, does one apply the rules of natural justice

in any event to a court of this nature but assuming

one does, in my respectful submission, one would

look not merely to the particular document, not

merely to the specific event and occasion but to

the whole of the circumstances. And when one looks

at the whole of the circumstances there is hardly

any substantial denial of natural justice here.

There is the relationship between the individuals

and the company which was the mortgagee which was

a party. This was, in substance, although by

receivers, a mortgagee sale and the company effecting that sale which was a party and was given full notice

was the party which appointed its two principals

as the receivers. So, again, as my learned friend

Mr Broun has suggested, if one is talking of natural

justice in a totally abstract sense, the relevance

of that sort of consideration would have to be

considered.

There are questions arising under the

Federal Court Rules. There are also difficult

questions arising as to the extent to which the

events of 2 - and 3 April - there were also questions

as to the extent to which whatever deficiencies

occured on 2 and 3 April could and would have

been cured on 29 April had Mr Bertoli and the other

applicants put all the arguments which were available

to them and attended.

BRENNAN J:  Mr Bennet, is there any reason why, the matter

having to go back before a single judge again, that

single judge should not consider de novo any of

the questions against Mr Loder and Mr Bertoli?

MR BENNETT:  Your Honour, the answer to that question would
involve arguing the whole of the appeal. We would

submit that we now have orders which have been

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affirmed by the Full Court and which should stand.

My client now, because of what has happened - - -

BRENNAN J: What orders - this is in favour of your client

you are speaking of - what orders are there in favour

of your client?

MR BENNETT:  The orders against my client setting aside the

transaction in the events which have since happened

because the business, of course, does not exist any more,are now very much to the benefit of my client because he, of course, would wish to get

back his money and that is the only remedy that

he has available and, therefore, the last thing

he would now wish to see is the transaction being

affirmed. The effects of the interlocutory orders

and the litigation was that he substantially ceased

to have any benefit from his purchase and he
therefore seeks to obtain orders against such parties

as may be available who were instrumental in selling

the business to him.

DEANE J:  And did you say that the business has effectively

disappeared?

MR BENNETT: Yes, Your Honour.

DEANE J:  Which means the parties have had a great success
with all this litigation. They have destroyed part
of what it was all about.
MR BENNETT:  I should, perhaps, qualify that, Your Honour.

I did not want to oversimplify it but part of what occurred was that the Commissioner of Taxation in

relation to sales tax took a large part of the moneys

and there were various things which occurred. But my client simply wants his money back from someone

and preferably as many people as possible.

the Family Court Regulations and Rules enabling Your Honour, there are very wide powers in

the court to dispense with regulations and to dispense

with rules and requiring in the fairly standard

form with which courts are now familiar that

whatever be done be done in the interests of efficiency

and speed and the like and, in my respectful submission,

the practical situation is that had a few days after
the order Mr Loder or Mr Bertoli approached the

court and said, "We are anxious now to be heard

on what occurred on 3 and 4. April'', the position

might have been very different. There would have

been powers to dispense with rules and to say, "Well,

this may be a final order in one sense but it is

only a few days old, let us deal with it". But

what they did was, in effect, to flout the authority
of the court to say, "We will refuse to have anything
to do with it, we will s1rnply see what happens and then

appeal" and this in a situation where in the varying

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degrees, of which Your Honours have heard and which

I will not take Your Honours to again, they and

each of them had varying degrees of notice of what

was occurring at different times.

We would submit that all these facts make the

case a highly inappropriate vehicle for the Court
to look at questions of natural justice or questions

of natural justice in the family Court~ And one

must not neglect, of course, two other things:

Mr Loder's presence in court and there was criticism

made of the terms of the orders sought against

Mr Loder - may I simply point this out, that where

the way in which a party is affected by an order
is not that the order requires him to do something,

or not to do something, but that the making of

an order has some indirect effect upon him, which

is the situation here, obviously he is not going

to be nam.eli:'. iri :t:he:.<ircler ~ One has to gather then, from

the document as a whole, how one is affected. And
if one considers the situation in equity where

someone is joined as a necessary party to anaction

of some sort the order in relation to the subject-

matter may not name him at all. The order may say

that a scheme be approved or that something be settled

cy-pres or it may say all sorts of things. It

may not say that the defendant X be ordered to do

something or not to do something but nevertheless

the defendant must read the document as a whole

and form a view whether it affects him.

Now, in this Court the rules as to parties

are not as precise as they might be but the test cannot be, with respect, how an equity lawyer or a common lawyer would look at that document and
advise his client as to what he should do. The

test must be what someone who has experience of

all courts, or at least of the Family Court, would

do. One cannot judge the standarj of the process
of a court by how it is going to be looked at by

someone not familiar with the processes of that

court. Indeed, there are ample ways in which a

practitioner can advise himself about the processes

of a court with which he is unfamiliar if he is

asked by a client to do so. Apart from anything

else that is one of the matters that is always put

in support of a separate bar. And, in my respectful

submission, it is simply no answer to say, "Well,

it is true that a family practitioner would be

familiar with what this document meant but looking at it on its face another lawyer might be misled". That, in my respectful submission, is not a matter which can go to natural justice or, indeed, affect

the force of the orders which were made. And when

all those matters are put together we would submit not only is this case an inappropriate vehicle but

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it does not come under the other leg; there is no

serious suggestion of a miscarriage of justice.

This was a case where the two persons concerned

were partners and officers of a company, the company

was squarely before the court, one of them was

squarely before the court, the other became squarely

before the court on the second occasion and to
separate one out and say, "Yes, but one of them

was not specifically told at the early stage of

the consequences that might have flowed against

him", in my respectful submission, falls a long

way short of a substantial miscarriage of justice

sufficient to justify the intervention of the Court

particularly when all the other matters to which

I have referred are taken into account.

In relation to the issues under section 85,

I do not propose to deal with those in detail,

my learned friend Mr Broun has dealt with them,

but we would submit that those issues cannot be

dealt with without going into the whole of the factual

material. There is not shown, we woulc submit, any

direct conflict on a single proposition between

the decision in this Court and the decision in

HARPER's case, indeed, in both cases, the Court

seems to say, "Well, there are a number of approaches

to construction of this section but on any view

this result would follow." Certainly, that is what is said in HARPER and, in my respectful submission,

it is not shown that there are two views which would

produce opposite results in this case. The case

is not a convenient vehicle, we would submit, for

testing any issue which arises under section 85.

For those reasons it is my submission that

the application - - -

MASON CJ: Thank you, Mr Bennett. Yes, Mr Foord.

BRENNAN J:  I would like to ask Mr Bennett one question.

Mr Bennett, section 85(3) of the Act requires the

court to:

have regard to the interests of, and shall

make an order proper for the protection of,

a bona fide purchaser or other person interested.

Now, I would be interested to know whether you have

any submissions as to the operation of that provision
with respect to the present proceedings for the
protection of your client, the business having

disappeared and I presume the money having disappeared

also.

MR BENNETT:  There is $100,000 in court, I am told which was
paid in I think by Mr Loder. I think I am correct

in saying that - or $110,000 at one stage.

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And one does not know, of course, what assets

individual parties have and the phrase "disappeared"

may be a strong phrase - I was not intending to
be precise in my use of that word in the absence

of evidence.

But, Your Honour, we would submit that under

section 85 where a sale is set aside against a

the court to do whatever is necessary to put the
parties back, so far as possible, in the positions
they would have been in but for the events having
occurred. That invovles, in relation to a purchaser
such as my client, giving him his money back.

purchaser who has paid for it that section empowers of that nature against the husband or the wife but

it is also possible, we would submit, where other
parties have been instrumental in enabling a
transaction which is set aside to go through, such
as receivers, mortRagees, agents and the like, for
the court to say, Where does the justice lie in
seeing where the loss should fall of ~etting aside
this transaction". And that is necessarily incidental

to a power to set aside transactions. When one sets aside transactions - when the equity court does - there are all sorts of consequential orders

which need to be made and they may often involve

further parties being joined for the purpose of the court's order being worked out to the full.

And we would submit those matters are fairly incidental
to the power and are, fairly, what is referred to
in the language of section 85 which is, of course,
very broad.

May it please the Court.

MASON CJ:  Thank you, Mr Bennett. Yes, Mr Foord.
MR FOORD:  Your Honours, only out of concern for the effect
of the submissions of Mr Broun and Mr Bennett about
sitting,back and letting the court run on and then
saying, "Well, we will come later with an appeal",
the situation is this, Your Honour, the lawyer no
doubt being one of those not familiar with the
in-house procedures of the Family Court did what
he should have done in the given circumstances and
looked at those rules and that is why we handed
them up this morning because they show a most
comprehensive set of rules designed not to bring
a party not named in the proceeings into those
proceedings except under certain conditions. And
this solicitor said, "Look, you have not got the
conditions present and therefore we will not be
there".
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MR FOORD (continuing):  Now, either he has been misled or

he has misled himself. In either event, wherever

the fault of that lies, the course of the Full Bench,

we submit, was plainly - - -

MASON CJ:  But did you ever raise before the Full Court the

point that he had been misled by the form of the notice?

MR FOORD:  No. Well, I was not there and I cannot answer

Your Honour's question but I cannot see in their

reasons anything that would justify a man saying

yes.

Yes, those rules as to parties are imprecise.

We accept what counsel have said about that, not and they require, before we can be brought into

this litigation, that an issue be defined that

involves us and if my solicitor was right in saying

that it was not done, then he was right in absenting

himself and a verdict against him .should not

be allowed to stand. What they have done apparently

is supplement the material at the hearing before

Mr Justice Nygh and go ahead and get a decree and

that, it says, is a denial of right to us, we submit,

Your Honour.

MASON CJ: Thank you, Mr Foord. Yes, Mr Handley.

MR HANDLEY:  Two matters, Your Honour: my friend, Mr Broun,

said that my client had received some form of notice
before the first hearing on 3 April. That is contrary

to the sworn evidence of the applicant's solicitor.

At page 95 of the application book which has not been

contraverted by any sworn material filed in this Court,

paragraph 21 on page 95:

lam instructed by Mr Bertoli that at no

time prior to the orders on 3 April 1987

was Mr Bertoli served with the application
filed on behalf of the wife pursuant to
section 85 and the supporting affidavit,
nor given any advice or notice that he may
be affected by the orders which were sought
and made on 3 April 1987.

The PARTNERSHIP ACT point, Your Honours, was rejected

by the Full Court at page 54, inter alia, because the

documents served on Mr Loder did not indicate that he
was being served as a partner - on behalf 0-F a firm:

And Bertoli himself was not namecl. in the application or in the relief.

Page 54, lines 13 to 18.

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And, finally, Your Honours, it is clear from a number

of Full Court cases that where there has been, in

has been applying TAYLOR V TAYLOR and taking the view the Family Court, a denial of natural justice, the Full Court
that a party affected is entitled to go to the
Full Court and, if that is a material consideration,
I could have this reproduced but it is the case of
BARRO V BARRO, (1983) FLC before the then
Chief Judge and Justices Fogarty and Treyvaud and,
of course, there was not quarrel in the Full Court
in this case that Mr-Bertoli had misconceived his
remedy by going to the Full Court rather than going
back to Mr Justice Nygh.
DEANE J:  Mr Handley, what would be your comment on the second
and third line on page 55?

MR HANDLEY: 

Your Honour, Mr Grieve's concession related to the orders made on 29 April.

DEANE J: That they caught up what had happened·before?

MR HANDLEY:  No, Your Honour. Well, I mean, they were financial

orders, money orders, made against Mr Bertoli but they

were the only orders made against Mr Bertoli that day.

DEANE J: Yes, but if those orders are valid, is that not your

client's main complaint?

MR HANDLEY: Well, Your Honour, we submit that were denied

natural justice on 3 April.

DEANE J: Yes, I follow that.

MR HANDLEY:  I mean, the fact that he was given natural justice

with regard to a further order made against us on

29 April is neither here nor there. The further

orders, Your Honour, required to be maintained by

braces and if we can remove the braces, the further

orders will fall.

DEANE J:  I must have misread the previous sentence wrongly:

He did not choose to take part in the proceedings of 29 April and we do not think the he can challenge the validity

of the order made against him on that

day on the ground of a denial of natural

justice.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, it is only a concession as to the actual

order made on the 29th.

BRENNAN J: 

Mr Handley, that order that was made on the 29th has now been set aside, has it not?

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour.
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BRENNAN J:  And that the matter is going back to the single judge?
MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour.
MR BROUN:  No, only in part, Your Honour. The order made on

29 April against Mr Bertoli was - the whole ambit of

the orders that had been previously made against

Loder - what has been sent back is only the question

of the financial adjustments between Loder, Bertoli,

Denyllek on the one hand and Sid Moore and Sid Moore

Racing on the other. So that a substantial part of

the orders of 29 April still stand.

BRENNAN J: 

Am I right in thinking that paragraph 3(3) of the orders that appear on page 18 are going back?

MR HANDLEY:  Now, page 18, order 3 is going back, I believe.

BRENNAN J: That is right.

MR HANDLEY:  The orders made against Mr Bertoli on the 29th

are set out in the application book at pages 23 and

following and the - - -

MR BROUN:  It is order No 2 on page 24 of the a~peal book.
MR HANDLEY:  Yes, yes, it is. That is right.
BRENNAN J: Order No 2 on page 24.  Now, that is what is

going back.

MR HANDLEY: That is going back, Your Honour.

BRENNAN J:  So, the personal orders made against Bertoli

and Loder are going back.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour.

BRENNAN J: 

Now, is it right to say that, pursuant to the order originally made, Mr Moore and his company

yielded up possession of the assets?
MR HANDLEY:  Your Honour, I was not - Your Honours will

appreciate, I was not - - -

BRENNAN J: No.

MR HANDLEY:  - - - in the matter in the Full Court or before
Mr Justice Nygh. I can give Your Honours my

understanding of the matter but it might be more

appropriate if either - - -

BRENNAN J: Well, perhaps, I could just indicate the area of

my concern. If the original orders were given

sufficient effect to, .law interests yielded

up the assets for which they had paid and they have

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not got their money back, then they have to get

their money back, one would think, from somebody

or other. The matter is going back before the

single judge to decide whether that order should

be extended to the individuals, Bertoli and Loder.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour.
BRENNAN J:  Then there may be problems about whether an

individual order should be made against them as

against the person to whom or on whose behalf the

purchase price was paid, namely, Torumba or Denyllek.

MR HANDLEY:  Yes, Your Honour.

BRENNAN J: But, ultimately, the court is under an injunction

under 85(3) to make orders for the interests of

other persons who are interested. How does that

affect the question of whether we should not, at
this stage, say, "Let the matter go bac;k to the
single judge. Let him work out whether the personal
order should be made against these persons and if

there is any problem then as between them and the

companies, that is, Denyllek and Torumba, then the

matter can come forward for further consideration

later."

MR HANDLEY: 

Not back to this Court direct but through the Full Court.

BRENNAN J:  No, through the Full Court.
MR HANDLEY:  Yes. Your Honours, I think my learned friend,

Mr Bennett, may have, as he in fact confessed,

been a little.carried away when he said the business

hact disappeared because Mr Justice Nygh ordered a

stocktaking and with regard to the stock that had

been sold, of course, Mr Moore has received - that

is, sold in the ordinary course of business prior

to the orders of the Family Court - Mr Moore, or

his company, received the purchase price for that

stock from the public in the ordinary course of
business and he was not ordered to retransfer that

stock which he had already disposed of.

With regard to stock which was still in existence

and able to be redelivered by Mr Moore to the vendor,

Torumba, Mrs Aysom was appointed court receiver with
respect to that stock, and to take possession of it and, as

I understand it, she did so. So, the business has not

disappeared in that sense. Some of the stock has

been sold in the ordinary course of business by

Mr Moore who has received the money. The rest of

the stock came under the control of the court

through its receiver but I would accept, Your Honour,

that the court is under an obligation under 85(3)

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and that, in my respectful submission, would

rather support the grant of special leave but,

can I say, Your Honours, that what I just

said - - -

BRENNAN J: Well, I wonder whether it would or whether it

might be better not to grant special leave until

the proceedings are dealt with by the single judge again

and see how he has worked it all out.

MR HANDLEY: Well, Your Honour, in our submission, that would

fail to give proper effect to my client's rights

not to be prejudiced or affected in his property or

financial interests by orders of a chapter 3 court

without prior notification. What Your Honour says may be, perhaps, an answer to Mr Foord, subject to the deception point. It does not run to my client.

But, Your Honours, the extent to which what happened

in practice after Mr Justice Nygh's order of 3 April,

I think there are other people at the bar table who

could give Your Honour a more complete.account.

BRENNAN J: Yes.

MASON CJ:  The Court will announce its decision in this matter

after the adjournment.

AT 12.13 PM THE MATTER WAS ADJOURNED

T7 UNTIL LATER THE SAME DAY
UPON RESUMING AT 2.20 PM:
MASON CJ: Having given consideration to these three applications,
we have come to the conclusions that we need to give

further consideration to them so that the matters will

stand - over until we announce a decision which we

hope will be in the forthcoming week.

MR HANDLEY: 

Would it be appropriate, Your Honours, if I handed up amended notices of appeal with the ambit material

removed?

MASON CJ: Yes.

MR HANDLEY: Sorry, amended drafts.

MASON CJ:  Thank you, Mr Handley.
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MR FOORD:  And, perhaps, if I inform Your Honours that if

special leave be granted, similar steps will be

taken in our case and so far as applicable to us, grounds of appeal corresponding to those, a draft

of which has been handed to Your Honours, would

be filed, certainly including grounds 4 and 5.

MASON CJ:  Thank you, Mr Foord.

AT 2.21 PM THE MATTER WAS ADJOURNED TO A DATE TO BE FIXED

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