Director of Public Prosecutions v Lindsay
[2019] VCC 2024
•6 December 2019
| IN THE COUNTY COURT OF VICTORIA | Revised Not Restricted Suitable for Publication |
AT MELBOURNE
CRIMINAL JURISDICTIONCR 19-00649
| DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS |
| v |
| SARA LINDSAY |
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| JUDGE: | HER HONOUR JUDGE GWYNN |
| WHERE HELD: | Melbourne |
| DATE OF HEARING: | 30 September 2019 |
| DATE OF SENTENCE: | 6 December 2019 |
| CASE MAY BE CITED AS: | DPP v LINDSAY |
| MEDIUM NEUTRAL CITATION: | [2019] VCC 2024 |
REASONS FOR SENTENCE
---Subject: Criminal Law
Catchwords: Aggravated burglary
Legislation Cited: Sentencing Act 1991
Cases Cited:DPP v Bowden [2016] VSCA 283, DPP v Hogarth [2012] VSCA 302, DPP v Meyers [2014] VSCA 314, Bolton v R [2019] VSCA 21
Sentence:Six months imprisonment, two year Community Corrections Order
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APPEARANCES: | Counsel | Solicitors |
| For the Office of Public Prosecutions | Mr A. Malik | Office of Public Prosecutions |
| For the Accused | Ms A. Cannon | Victorian Legal Aid |
HER HONOUR:
1Sara Lindsay, you have pleaded guilty on indictment to a charge of aggravated burglary, committed on 13 July 2018. You have also pleaded guilty to what are called related summary offences, those being assault with a weapon, two charges of breach of personal safety intervention order, committing an indictable offence whilst on bail, that being aggravated burglary, two charges of contravene conduct condition of bail and the charge of failure to answer bail.
2For your information, aggravated burglary carries a maximum penalty of 25 years imprisonment. The charges of contravene personal safety order and fail to answer bail, each carry a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and the remaining charges, each carry a maximum of three months imprisonment. These maximum penalties reflect the seriousness with which Parliament regards these offences.
3In terms of the circumstances of your offending, they were set out in a document entitled 'Summary of Prosecution Opening' dated 17 April 2019. It is an agreed document and represents an acceptance by you of all the elements of the offences and the factual basis on which I am to sentence you.
4The victims of your offending are Ian Tebb and MD - as a first name - Islam. At the date of your offending, Mr Tebb resided at 175 Junction Road, Jeeralang. Mr Islam resided in a bungalow at the same address and each were protected persons in personal safety intervention orders which had been made against you.
5At the time of the offending, you were bailed to reside at 5 Williams Road, Yinnar South. A condition of your bail was that you not be within 200 metres of 175 Junction Road, Jeeralang. Despite this condition, you had been residing on and off at that address.
6On 12 July 2018, at approximately 3.00 PM, you left 175 Junction Road, Jeeralang, and told Mr Tebb you were going out to see a friend. He chose to sleep outside on a sofa in the garage as you had previously assaulted him after returning home substance effected and he was fearful that that would occur again. You in fact returned to the address at approximately 2.00 AM the following morning.
7At approximately 7.30 AM, Mr Tebb entered the main house to make a coffee and saw you sitting on your bed. Mr Islam entered the main house and you began to verbally abuse him, calling him a terrorist and accusing him of stealing your boat and 50 million dollars. Mr Islam left and you followed him. You then turned and said to Mr Tebb, 'Now it's your turn'.
8You repeatedly screamed that he had raped your daughter and that you wanted him to confess that he is the person depicted in an old picture of a terrorist. You also stated 'I killed Mick Gatto and if he was dead, you'll be dead'. You then approached Mr Tebb, stood inches from his face and repeatedly screamed that he had raped your daughter, stolen your boat and that Mr Tebb and Mr Islam owed you about 50 million dollars. This lasted for about a minute. Mr Tebb then stood up and moved behind the couch, using it as a barrier from you. He yelled in an attempt to get Mr Islam's attention to get him to call the police. He walked towards the backdoor in an attempt to leave, but you walked in between the door and Mr Tebb preventing him from leaving. You said ‘You're not getting away this time, I'm going to kill you'. Mr Tebb begged you to leave him alone and to let him leave the house.
9Mr Tebb continued to attempt to leave through both the front and back doors, but you blocked him whilst repeatedly screaming and threatening him. He was too scared to push past you, due to your previous acts of violence towards him.
10After approximately five minutes, you moved to the side and said 'You can go now. You can go out and see him. Off you go'. Mr Tebb exited the house and ran down the driveway. As he was running past the bungalow, Mr Tebb repeatedly screamed out to Mr Islam, 'Call the police. Call the police'. You approached the bungalow where Mr Islam resided.
11Mr Islam observed Mr Tebb run out of the main house and yelled for him to call the police. You knocked on the bungalow door and said 'Why are you here? You owe me 500 million dollars' and 'Give me that 500 million dollars back or I will kill you'. That forms the basis for contravening the personal safety intervention order.
12You pulled a piece of plywood from the doorframe and entered the bungalow through the doorframe, carrying a metal pole in your hand. That comprises Charge 1 on the indictment, aggravated burglary, as well as the summary charge of committing an indictable offence whilst on bail.
13Mr Islam ran from the couch through the backdoor. You chased him and swung the pole at him, forming the basis for the unlawful assault with weapon charge.
14Mr Islam ran to the main road at the front of the property where Mr Tebb was standing and called the police. You stood near the front of the house and screamed 'Fuck you maggot. Call the police you fucking maggot'.
15On any view, your behaviour was bizarre, confronting and confusing. In the context of their relationship with you and your behaviour on 13 July 2018, I have little doubt that both Mr Tebb and Mr Islam were frightened, if not terrified. This all occurred at their residential premises, an environment in which they were entitled to feel safe and an environment in which you are not entitled to be.
16Aggravated burglary is an extremely serious charge. In terms of the charge of aggravated burglary, I reflect on recent decisions of the Court of Appeal, which include that of DPP v Bowden [2016] VSCA 283, DPP v Hogarth [2012] VSCA 302 and DPP v Meyers [2014] VSCA 314. I have had recourse to each of those decisions. In DPP v Meyers, at [6], the court referred to Hogarth and said that:
'Hogarth established that current sentencing practices for serious forms of aggravated burglary needed to change as they did not reflect the objective seriousness of such offending. Aggravated burglaries which involve confrontation and violence, or threats of violence, should be viewed very seriously, whether the target of the attack is a former domestic partner, or a person against whom such other grievance is held'.
17Further, the decision of Meyers referred to determining the appropriate sentence for an offence of aggravated burglary, through an assessment of the seriousness of the offence, and included a number of non-exhaustive considerations as being relevant to such an assessment. In terms of this aggravated burglary, you ran into the victim's bungalow in circumstances that were both violent and confrontational.
18You entered with an intention to assault, and whilst you were on your own, you were armed. I do accept that your offending was relatively spontaneous. It was also likely that you were under the influence of drugs at that time, given your irrational actions and non-sensical statements. It was very hard to understand what in fact your grievance was, other than that you were aggrieved. This of course in no way excuses your behaviour.
19Mr Islam has provided a victim impact statement. The purpose of a victim impact statement is to give those effected by your crime the opportunity to participate in the criminal justice process by informing the court about the effects of the crime upon them. In his statement, Mr Islam details how your actions have affected him personally. He was understandably anxious about his safety, possessions and livelihood, and was very afraid of you. He had to move address. The effects of your actions upon him are likely to be still ongoing.
20Your intent on entry is a significant feature going to the gravity of your offending. I am now referring to the aggravated burglary and informed by the actions that took place once inside. I bear in mind that the offence of aggravated burglary is complete upon entry and that any sentence on that particular charge cannot involve punishment for what happened post entry.
21Whilst it is a serious offence, I do not find this example of aggravated burglary to be at the higher end for an offence of its type. I place your offending such as the description assists, at the mid to lower end.
22Police attended and placed you under arrest. You were unfit to be interviewed and were charged and remanded into custody. You were also charged with contravening a conduct condition of bail, namely not to attend 175 Junction Road, Jeeralang.
23I do accept that you pleaded guilty at an early opportunity. This plea has utilitarian value and represents a taking of responsibility by you for your offending. It has saved the court the time and expense of contested proceedings and the witnesses the need to relive the events of July of 2018.
24Taking into account those matters and all the materials before me, I do find that your plea is also one which represents an expression of remorse. You are ashamed and embarrassed. All of these factors will be taken into account in your favour.
Criminal history
25You have a prior criminal history of some thirteen court appearances. On 28 January 1997, you appeared at the Moe Magistrates' Court in relation to a single charge of criminal damage and received an adjourned undertaking. Shortly after that, on 18 March 1997, you again appeared at the Moe Magistrates' Court, this time in relation to a charge of failing to answer bail and were again placed on an adjourned undertaking.
26On 13 January 1998, you were convicted and fined in relation to a charge of unlawful assault. Three years later you appeared at the Moe Magistrates' Court, on 6 March 2001, in relation to dishonesty and drug offences and were again convicted and fined.
27On 17 September 2003, you appeared at the Bairnsdale Magistrates' Court in relation to property damage and recklessly causing injury. You were placed on a community based order for a period of three months.
28You then appeared at the Bairnsdale Magistrates' Court on 15 April 2004, in relation to charges of burglary and theft and were fined. On that same day, you were dealt with for breach of a community based order, the order that you had received on 17 September 2003 and also fined. There was again a gap in your offending and you next appeared at the Latrobe Valley Magistrates' Court on 30 October 2007, in relation to criminal damage, drug possession, failing to answer bail and unlicensed driving. You received one month's imprisonment which was wholly suspended for a period of six months.
29On 21 August 2008, you appeared at the Latrobe Valley Magistrates' Court for recklessly causing injury and two charges of failing to answer bail and were fined. There was then another gap in your offending and on 30 September 2013, you were placed on an adjourned undertaking, in relation to charges of contravening family violence safety notice and family violence intervention order.
30On 10 March 2015, you were fined for drug possession.
31On 19 January 2017, you appeared at Latrobe Valley Magistrates' Court in relation to criminal damage and assault and were placed on a twelve month community corrections order. That decision was appealed, the appeal allowed and you were convicted and discharged.
32On 3 April 2018, you appeared at the Latrobe Valley Magistrates' Court in relation to breaching family violence orders, assaults and failing to answer bail and was sentenced to 30 days imprisonment. I am told that some of these charges related to the same victims as your offending before me, which occurred only months later on 13 July of 2018.
33This history reflects your inability to negotiate relationships, particularly in relation to property and violent offences. In the context of this offending, your inability to abide by either bail orders or personal safety intervention orders is of additional concern. You are not to be punished for your criminal history a second time, but it is relevant to the assessment that needs to be given to the weight in sentencing, to the principles of specific deterrence - that is putting you off getting into further trouble - denunciation and protecting the community from you.
34It is also relevant to an assessment of your potential for rehabilitation. Whilst any gaps in your offending behaviour are to your credit, the fact that you returned to offending and of a similar nature is a real concern. Supervisory orders have not managed to assist you, nor has a short period of imprisonment.
Personal circumstances
35In terms of your personal circumstances, you are currently aged 40 years and are the second oldest of a sibship of five, with one older brother and three younger sisters.
36You grew up on a dairy farm. Your parents remain together and are alive, as I understand it. Your father currently suffers from Alzheimer's. You described your upbringing as strict and one which involved physical chastisement.
37At school you had difficulty reading and writing and completed Year 7 at Churchill High School, before moving to Morwell High in Year 8. You do recall residing with a foster family at one stage, but not as to the reasons for that placement.
38You left school at about 15 years of age and went to Queensland with a foster family where you began working on fishing trawlers. In the past, this has been your main form of employment, but not so for the last five or so years.
39You had a relationship that was fraught with family violence and from that relationship, you had a daughter Kayla. Your relationship did not see out the birth of that child and Kayla was removed from your care about twelve years ago when very young. I understand she was removed because of your then drug use. You are now, importantly, rebuilding your relationship with her.
40You self-describe as the black sheep of your family, with relationships having been strained through your offending and drug use. You have a long history of cannabis and methamphetamine use and a long history of psychiatric instability, with suicidal ideation. I have received a report from
Dr Nina Zimmerman, psychiatrist, dated 19 July 2019. She notes your clear history of polydrug abuse and that the most likely diagnosis of your presentation at the time of your offending is one of drug induced psychosis. Certainly to me that was apparent from the factual circumstances.41Dr Zimmerman opined that you demonstrate excellent insight into the link between your drug use and your offending, but that you are also challenged to stay away from drugs after decades of use. She diagnoses you with depression and I note that this report is not the subject of challenge. I accept its contents. She also notes that:
‘Ms Lindsay would find prison more onerous than someone without her personal difficulties. She is likely to struggle to manage conflicts and stresses that inevitably arise in the custodial setting, and is at risk of reacting impulsively. She would be at risk of relapse of her depression and would also be at risk of increased suicidal ideation. The disruption of her recent successful attempts to reconnect with family, including her daughter, is likely to be particularly difficult for her to manage'.
42I take this consideration into account, where there is a serious risk of imprisonment having a significant adverse effect on an offender's mental health, this is a factor which tends to mitigate punishment and will do so in your case.
43Dr Zimmerman recommended that you undertake a neuropsychological assessment. Following that recommendation, Dr Loretta Evans, clinical neuropsychologist, has also provided a report. That report being dated
22 August 2019.44Her report is also unchallenged and I have taken its contents into account. She finds that you present with a neuropsychological profile that is reflective of cognitive deficits, secondary to frontal lobe dysfunction that is consistent with an underlying psychiatric illness. You have had eight psychiatric admissions, with the last in time being in February of 2017.
45Dr Evans finds your presentation to be highly consistent with a diagnosis of schizoaffective disorder. Dr Evans found that you have suffered chronic psychiatric instability and that your impulsive behaviours and maladaptive social interactions are likely to be driven by a combination of cognitive inefficiencies, psychological needs and possibly aspects of personality that are exacerbated by the combination of heightened anxiety and illicit substance abuse.
46She was of the view that you are likely to require significant encouragement and support, for an extended period of time, if you are to reduce your risk of reoffending. She recommends long term psychological input, that you take recommended medication, that you cease all drug use, that you continue to live in a stable environment - such as you presently enjoy with your sister - that you access community mental health support services, and have regular contact with your general practitioner.
47On 25 September 2018, you made a successful application for bail and subsequently failed to report on that bail on a number of dates, forming the basis for summary charge 18, that was a rolled up charge. At the first committal mention of these matters on 4 October 2018, you failed to appear and a warrant was issued for your arrest. You were arrested on 30 October 2018 and remanded into custody. The matter was listed for a second committal mention on 29 November. You made a further successful application for bail on 19 March 2019.
48That was the longest period of time you had spent in custody. In combination, your period on remand in relation to these matters was, as I have said, the longest period you have spent in a custodial setting and in my view, is capable as acting as a sanction and deterrent into the future.
49Since you were released on bail, you have not looked back in terms of your focus on your own rehabilitation. You have continued to reside with your sister Jeanette and that relationship is also being repaired. You are highly motivated by continuing your relationship with your daughter Kayla.
50In fact, tendered on your behalf was a large body of supportive material. A reference from your sister Jeanette refers to your remorse for your offending and her belief that drugs and mental health have played the primary role in the current charges. She refers to the fact that you are slowly rebuilding your relationships with other members of the family and that you are currently drug free and seeking appropriate supports and interventions. She was positive about your future, if you can maintain these relationships and your supports.
51You successfully completed what is referred to as the CISP Program, Court Integrated Services Program, on bail. A final progress report dated 1 July was tendered. That report describes you as having achieved exceptional results whilst on the CISP Program and that you should be extremely proud of your efforts. You have taken positive steps towards gaining control of your life and the possibility of a more productive future. Sensibly, that report also referred to the fact that you are at an early stage of your journey of recovery and that more work needed to be done to build your skills and resilience, in the face of stress and pressure. The report refers to the benefits that you gained from very good supports around you. It was contemplated in that report that you would be referred to the ARC list of the Magistrates' Court.
52On 3 July 2019, you were referred to the ARC list, standing for Assessment and Referral Court list. This is a specialist court, designed to meet the needs of accused persons who have a mental illness and or cognitive impairment. It provides case management to participants, which can include psychological assessment, referrals to various services and or drug and alcohol treatment. To participate, participants need to be charged with a criminal offence and have, or likely to have, a mental illness, intellectual disability, acquired brain injury, autism spectrum disorder and or a neurological impairment, that results in substantially reduced capacity in at least one of the areas of self-care, self-management, social interaction or communication. It is designed to set up participants with various services to assist them, through an individual support plan.
53A preliminary assessment referral report detailed your personal circumstances and provided an individual support plan for the future. That plan included drug and alcohol referrals, mental health assistance, as well as other life goals, which included maintaining stable accommodation, improving connection with your daughter Kayla and to re-engage with meaningful employment.
54Three progress reports dated respectively 29 September 2019, 17 October 2019 and 18 November 2019, deal with your participation in the ARC list and the individual program developed to assist you.
55The first report in time refers to the fact that you were excellent in your engagement with ARC and attended all appointments. At that time, as now, you continued to reside with your sister which was stable and consistent. You had attended appointments with your general practitioner as required and were positively engaged.
56The second report confirms that by 17 October 2019 you had completed a ten week Positive Lifestyle Program with a focus on anger management. You had maintained consistent fortnightly appointments with your general practitioner and engaged in a support episode of drug and alcohol counselling. You had continued to maintain stable accommodation with your sister.
57The third progress report refers to your one hundred per cent attendance. It does not get any better than that. You were maintaining your accommodation and showed insight into the protective nature of your family support. You were recognising the value to you of that support. You remained actively engaged with your general practitioner, compliant with medication and were experiencing positive and stable mental health. You were also filling in your days with meaningful activities and had been referred to a mental health social worker. You also attended scheduled appointments with a drug and alcohol service.
58You are to be commended on your new insights into your decision making and how what you do affects others. You are to be commended for your compliance with CISP and to date with the ARC list, as well as your response to what it has offered you.
59You are well supported by family at this time, particularly your sisters, Jeanette and Mel, and importantly, you recognise the value of that support. In addition, you are highly motivated by regaining your relationship with your daughter and, at this time, appear to be putting every foot in the right direction. You have not reoffended. This compliance stands in stark contrast with the past, when you have had real difficulty accepting assistance, or adhering to what may have been offered. However, and there is always a however or but, it does remain early days and in my view, you should be encouraged to maintain your current path. It can only be in yours, your family's and ultimately the community's interest that you do so.
60Your counsel submits that taking into account all relevant sentencing considerations, a Community Corrections Order should be imposed. The Crown position is that a combination sentence is within range. This refers to a combination of a term of imprisonment and a Community Corrections Order. The Crown's position is that the 216 days that you have available to you, by way of pre-sentence detention is insufficient, even in combination with a Community Corrections Order, to properly reflect the relevant sentencing considerations as raised by them.
61I have had you assessed as to your suitability for a Community Corrections Order and you are assessed as suitable.
Sentencing
62I will make the ancillary order as sought, for a forensic sample to be provided. That means that you provide a sample of your cheek cells. They use a long cotton bud to do that and then you go on a database. So if you reoffend, they can pick up it was you. I am making that order because of the seriousness of the circumstances of the offending. Your prior convictions in my view warrant the making of the order. It is by consent and the granting of the order, in my view, is in the public interest. I am obliged to warn you that if you do not participate in that process, then a blood sample can be taken and reasonable force can be used to take that sample.
63The basic purposes for which a court may impose a sentence are punishment, general deterrence - sending a message into the community - specific deterrence, as I have already said - sending a message to you - rehabilitation, denunciation and protection of the community. In sentencing you, I must have regard to a range of matters such as the seriousness of the offending, your culpability for it, your personal circumstances and those of your victims.
64I am also required to balance the interest of the community in denouncing criminal conduct with the interest of the community clearly in seeking to ensure, as far as possible, that offenders are rehabilitated and are reintegrated into society. I have taken into account the relevant sentencing guidelines referred to in s.5 of the Sentencing Act where relevant to your case. I have taken into account current sentencing practices for the offences to which you have pleaded guilty.
65I do propose to impose an aggregate sentence, as I am satisfied that the offences are founded on the same facts or form or a part of, a series of offences of a same or similar character. In so doing, I bear in mind the principles of totality and proportionately. As was stated in the guideline judgment of Bolton v R [2019] VSCA 21, sentencing courts now have more discretion in terms of choosing a sentencing disposition, which does enable all the purposes of punishment to be served simultaneously, in a coherent and balanced way, in preference to the option of imprisonment which is skewed towards retribution and deterrence.
66A Community Corrections Order can be punitive, achieve deterrence - both general and specific - and may be suitable even in cases of relatively serious offences which might previously have attracted an immediate term of imprisonment. In this case, I am satisfied that a combination of gaol to be followed by a Community Corrections Order is punitive, can act as a deterrent for you and can mark the court's disapproval of your actions.
67The Community Corrections Order is tailored to your particular circumstances and the causes that led to this offending and is directed at your ultimate rehabilitation. It is important that courts do look to the future, as well as the past.
68Sara Lindsay, you will be convicted and sentenced to six months imprisonment to be served in combination with a Community Corrections Order of two years duration.
69I reckon 216 days as having already been served.
70I am concerned that community work may be detrimental to you, given in part, the contents of the neuropsychological report and your ability to negotiate relationships and also by your understandable desire to avoid all former associates and old ways. There are risks including a community work component would put you in a situation where you would have to mix with those persons. However, part of your current learnings are to learn to manage those risks and I do accept the submission by the prosecution that there remains a need to punish, even though in my view, the two year order is capable of reflecting that. I note the contents of the assessment report do not recommend judicial monitoring and I will not include that as a condition.
71The conditions of the order that I impose are firstly 150 hours of community work. I will offset 100 hours for treatment. So you do the treatment, it comes off the community work instead of having to do that.
72The treatment components will include drug assessment and treatment, mental health treatment and you will be supervised by the Office of Corrections.
73In addition to the conditions that I have imposed, there are standard conditions. The first and foremost of those is you must not commit any other offences which could be punished by imprisonment during the two year period of the order. You must also report within two working days as of today to the nearest Community Corrections Office and I understand an appointment has already been set up for you. You are also required to advise your supervising Corrections Officer of any change of address of where you are living or working and you must do so within two working days.
74It is a term of all Community Corrections Orders that you must submit to visits as directed and you must obey all of their instructions and directions. You are not able to leave Victoria without their permission.
75You should be under no illusion that this outcome presents you with an opportunity to further change your life in a positive fashion, should you choose to take up this opportunity. This order can be breached if you do not comply with it in terms of the conditions, or as I have said, if you reoffend during its operation. Should you do so, then you will be required to come before me for a contravention hearing. That may require me to resentence you for the charges, as well as considering a separate charge of contravening the corrections order.
76It would be my intention, if at all possible, that the interventions of the Community Corrections Order imposed by me, are part and parcel of the services already involved to assist you through the ARC list. The neuropsychological report of Dr Evans should be made available to the Office of Corrections to provide guidance for the proper implementation of appropriate supports.
77Whilst I have taken a range of factors into account in arriving at this sentence, s.6AAA of the Sentencing Act requires me to state the sentence I would have imposed if you had not pleaded guilty to the charges. If not for your pleas of guilty, I would have sentenced you to a total effective sentence of 20 months imprisonment, with a minimum of 10 months to be served before being eligible for parole. Anything I missed or anything arising?
78MR MALIK: No, Your Honour.
79HER HONOUR: All right. Documents will print out shortly for you Ms Lindsay. I will get you to take her through them Ms Cannon.
80MS CANNON: Yes, Your Honour.
81HER HONOUR: You can both check them obviously.
82MS CANNON: Yes.
83HER HONOUR: And once they are signed, in the nicest possible way
Ms Lindsay, I do not want to see you again. Got me?84OFFENDER: Yep. Can I just ask one question?
85HER HONOUR: Do you want to approach?
86MS CANNON: Can I approach Your Honour?
87HER HONOUR: Yes. I'll just get Ms Cannon to speak to you.
88MS CANNON: It was a bail question, Your Honour, thank you.
89HER HONOUR: You were able to assist with that were you Ms Cannon?
90MS CANNON: Yes.
91HER HONOUR: Thank you. All right, that is that. Thank you.
92OFFENDER: Could I ask another question?
93MS CANNON: I'll approach in a minute, Your Honour.
94HER HONOUR: I'll get Ms Cannon to approach. I don't mind, but she sometimes filters it through, so ‑ ‑ ‑
95MS CANNON: And can I also approach - yes, well I'll approach and ask that question.
96HER HONOUR: Yes. Did you want to check that too Mr Malik?
97MR MALIK: Thank you, Your Honour.
98HER HONOUR: All right, ‑ ‑ ‑
99MS CANNON: Thank you, Your Honour.
100HER HONOUR: ‑ ‑ ‑ thank you Mr Malik for your assistance, stepping into the breach ‑ ‑ ‑
101MR MALIK: No problem, Your Honour.
102HER HONOUR: ‑ ‑ ‑ left by Mr O'Doherty. Ms Cannon, thank you very much for your assistance.
103MS CANNON: Thank you, Your Honour.
104HER HONOUR: And as I said Ms Lindsay, good luck. I do not want to see you again and thank you for the support that are here with you today. All right, I will stand down till 10.30 tomorrow. Thank you.
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