FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA
(DIVISION 2)
Carta & Lorenzo [2024] FedCFamC2F 1179
File number(s): NCC 4196 of 2020 Judgment of: JUDGE BETTS Date of judgment: 27 August 2024 Catchwords: FAMILY LAW – Parenting – final hearing – discreet issue – where the Mother seeks an absolute restraint on the child being exposed to firearms – where the Mother has traumatic personal experience involving firearms – where the Father is a keen, responsible gun owner and enjoys hunting – where there is a meaningful relationship between the Father and child without exposure to firearms – whilst there is no unacceptable physical risk to the child being exposed to firearms in Father’s presence and supervision, dismissing the Mother’s application would likely result in the child becoming embroiled in a ‘loyalty conflict’, strain co‑parenting trust and communication and have an adverse impact on the Mother’s long term mental health with flow on adverse effects on her parenting capacity – best interests of child to order restraint on exposure to firearms until 18 years of age. Legislation: Family Law Act 1975 (Cth)
Firearms Act 1996 (NSW)
Cases cited: In the marriage of Kemsley & Kemsley (1984) FLC 91-567
Keane & Keane [2021] FamCAFC 1
Division: Division 2 Family Law Number of paragraphs: 128 Date of last submission/s: 13 August 2024 Date of hearing: 25 March 2024, 18 April 2024, 1 May 2024, 18 June 2024 & 13 August 2024 Place: Newcastle Counsel for the Applicant: Mr Young Solicitors for the Applicant Mullane & Lindsay Solicitors for the Respondent: N/a – Self-represented Counsel for the Independent Children’s Lawyer: Ms Beckett Solicitors for the Independent Children’s Lawyer: Joplin Lawyers ORDERS
NCC 4196 of 2020 FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA (DIVISION 2)
BETWEEN: MR CARTA
Applicant
AND: MS LORENZO
Respondent
INDEPENDENT CHILDREN'S LAWYER
ORDER MADE BY:
JUDGE BETTS
DATE OF ORDER:
27 AUGUST 2024
THE COURT ORDERS THAT:
1.Until the child X born in 2013 reaches the age of 18 years, the Mother and Father are each restrained from causing or permitting X to be exposed to firearms, being:
(a)A gun or other weapon that propels projectiles by means of gunpowder or other explosive substance;
(b)A spear gun used for the purpose of fishing.
2.The restraint in order 1 does not extend to X’s exposure to: a paintball gun, toy or firearm used for the purpose of carnival games or shows.
3.The proceedings are adjourned to 9.30am on 25 September 2024 for consideration of any costs applications noting that the Independent Children’s Lawyer is obliged to bring a costs application.
Note: The form of the order is subject to the entry in the Court’s records.
Note: This copy of the Court’s Reasons for judgment may be subject to review to remedy minor typographical or grammatical errors (r 10.14(b) Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth)), or to record a variation to the order pursuant to r 10.13 Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules…
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The court considered the best interests of the child, weighing the Mother's trauma and the Father's responsible gun ownership. While acknowledging the Father's responsible handling of firearms and the absence of physical risk in his presence, the court was concerned about the potential for the child to become ensnared in a loyalty conflict. Such a conflict could strain co-parenting trust and communication, and negatively impact the Mother’s long-term mental health and, consequently, her parenting capacity. The court recognised the importance of avoiding any situation that could create a 'loyalty conflict' for the child, which could have detrimental effects on the child's wellbeing.
The court determined that it was in the child's best interests to restrict exposure to firearms until the child turned 18. The order prohibited both parents from allowing the child to be exposed to firearms, defined as guns or weapons that propel projectiles by gunpowder or other explosive substances, and spear guns used for fishing. However, the court allowed exceptions for exposure to paintball guns, toy firearms, and firearms used in carnival games or shows. The proceedings were adjourned to allow for any costs applications, with the Independent Children’s Lawyer obliged to bring a costs application.
The court ordered that until X reaches the age of 18, neither parent shall cause or permit X to be exposed to firearms. The order further specified that the restraint did not extend to X’s exposure to paintball guns, toy firearms, or firearms used in carnival games or shows. The case was adjourned to allow for consideration of costs applications.
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NCC 4196 of 2020
FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA (DIVISION 2)
BETWEEN:
MR CARTA
Applicant
AND:
MS LORENZO
Respondent
INDEPENDENT CHILDREN'S LAWYER
ORDER MADE BY:
JUDGE BETTS
DATE OF ORDER:
27 AUGUST 2024
THE COURT ORDERS THAT:
1. Until the child X born in 2013 reaches the age of 18 years, the Mother and Father are each restrained from causing or permitting X to be exposed to firearms, being:
(a) A gun or other weapon that propels projectiles by means of gunpowder or other explosive substance;
(b) A spear gun used for the purpose of fishing.
2. The restraint in order 1 does not extend to X’s exposure to: a paintball gun, toy or firearm used for the purpose of carnival games or shows.
3. The proceedings are adjourned to 9.30am on 25 September 2024 for consideration of any costs applications noting that the Independent Children’s Lawyer is obliged to bring a costs application.
Note: The form of the order is subject to the entry in the Court’s records.
Note: This copy of the Court’s Reasons for judgment may be subject to review to remedy minor typographical or grammatical errors (r 10.14(b) Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth)), or to record a variation to the order pursuant to r 10.13 Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth).
Part XIVB of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) makes it an offence, except in very limited circumstances, to publish an account of proceedings that identify persons, associated persons, or witnesses involved in family law proceedings.
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