Bropho v The State of Western Australia & Anor (1)
[1989] HCATrans 254
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IN THE HIGH COURT OF AUSTRALIA
Office of the Registry
Perth No P30 of 1989 B e t w e e n -
ROBERT BROPHO
Applicant
and
THE STATE OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA
First Respondent
and
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN DEVELOPMENT
COMMISSION
Second Respondent
Application for special leave to
appeal
DEANE J
TOOHEY J
McHUGH J
| Bropho |
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
AT PERTH ON WEDNESDAY, 25 OCTOBER 1989, AT 10.20 AM
Copyright in the High Court of Australia
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| MR G.M.G. McINTYRE: | I appear with my learned friend, |
| - | MRS. CHURCHES for the applicant. (instructed by Keall Brinsden) |
MR K.H. PARKER, QC, Solicitor-General for Western Australia:
If it please the Court, I appear with my learned friend, MSC.A. WHEELER for the respondents.
(instructed by the Crown Solicitor for Western
Australia)
DEANE J: Yes, Mr McIntyre.
| MR McINTYRE: | I hand up to Your Honours the applicant's list |
of authorities and outline.
| DEANE J: | I should tell you straight away, Mr McIntyre, |
| your ideas of "authorities which may be referred to" | |
| on a_ leave application bear no relation at all | |
| to the reality. | |
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes, quite so, Your Honour. |
| DEANE J: | Mr McIntyre, could you indicate briefly the precise |
| point you wish to raise on an appeal and the | |
| precise decisions which you will be saying should be overruled or overturned if you were to succeed | |
| in obtaining leave? |
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes. | The precise proposition is perhaps |
best revealed at page 61 of the appeal book
at paragraph 2(a)(i), that is that:
The Court erred in law in rejecting the proposition that it is the presumption against depriving the Crown of its prerogative which gives rise to the
application of the principle that an
Act does not bind the Crown unless an
intention that the Crown be bound
appears either expressly or by necessary
implication from the words of the statute.
So that - - -
DEANE J: Well, it is more paragraph (a)(ii) than
paragraph (a)(i)?
MR McINTYRE: Yes. Clearly those paragraphs (a)(i), (ii)
and (iii) are different ways of expressing the
same thing probably.
| TOOHEY J: | But if the presumption has given rise to a |
principle which now does not depend upon the
presumption in the sense that it has overtaken
the presumption and is now enshrined in principle
of law, if that be the case, what are you seeking
to do, Mr McIntyre, to attack the principledirectly, or to attack the presumption that gave
rise to it, or both, or what?
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| Bropho |
| :MR McINTYRE: | I think probably both, Your Honour. |
| DEANE J: | Or is that so? Is not what you are doing trying to cut back the principle to the presumption, to the scope of the presumption? |
| :MR McINTYRE: | That is certainly so in relation to this particular matter but it may well be that the |
| which is that one looks to the mischief of the | |
| statute and says that if the mischief needs to | |
| bind the Crown then the Crown is bound. That is | |
| probably a slightly more general proposition | |
| that is set out at paragraph 2(a) in any of | |
| its particular versions. |
McHUGH J: Well the old rule of construction was that where
the statute affected rights of parties including
the Crown indifferently there was no presumption.
That was the ancient rule.
| :MR McINTYRE: | Yes, that is right. |
| McHUGH J: | You seek to take the law back to that, do you? |
| :MR McINTYRE: | Yes, and naturally, of course, we would ask |
the Court to be looking at the decision of
BRADKEN V BHP which is, I think one could say,
the leading case in Australia and of this Court
in relation to the application of that presumption.
| DEANE J: | And this question of the challenge of existing |
| authority would effectively be the only issue in | |
| any appeal? It is certainly the only one referred | |
| to in the outline you have handed up. |
| :MR McINTYRE: | Yes. | It is not the only ground of appeal as |
matter which is probably of most concern to
is revealed in the appeal book, but it is the special leave. There are, of course, two other essential areas which comprise grounds of appeal
and they can probably best be seen at page 62 of the appeal book at paragraphs (c)(i) and (ii) and paragraph (d).
| DEANE J: | They are essentially questions of construction |
| arising - - - |
:MR McINTYRE: That is right and whilst they are grounds
of appeal I would not seek to say that they
in any way would, by themselves at least, give
Your Honours any cause to grant special leave.
It might be that if you thought that there was
some basis for special leave flowing out of the first matter then those two might accumulate to
push you over the edge, if that was necessary,
in relation to making the decision.
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| Bropho |
| DEANE J: | And what are the decisions, particularly decisions of this Gour~ that you would be attacking? |
MR McINTYRE: Essentially the BRADKEN V BHP case, that
is the one which we would say_ stated the
principle. There are other cases, of course,
which were decided about the same time which
restate the principle. It is essentially our
case that in reality what each of those cases did was to merely state the principle that it was not
ever fully argued before them and that it is
therefore - - -
| McHUGH J: | Was it a case like ESSENDON CORPORATION V |
THE COMMONWEALTH where the question arose about
whether the statute found Commonwealth Crown
or State Crown, that sort of point?
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes. |
| McHUGH J: | BOMBAY was relied on in that case, was it not, |
if my memory serves me right?
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes, that is right. | It is our view that |
that case, and other cases of its kind, really
were cases which decided the question of
which Crown was to be bound in the context of
a decision about the divisibility or indivisibility
of the Crown. In fact, the judges turned their
attention to that issue merely accepting, as I said,
the rule in BOMBAY and that none of them had
before them a sufficient amount of authority
to examine, analyse or deal with the rule in
BOMBAY and in fact consider it as a separate
issue. They were considering the issue of whether the Crown, which had not legislated, was bound or not and in all of those sorts of cases they
merely said, "Well, it's the well-known rule
cited in BOMBAY and we follow that", and never
turned their minds to it in terms of critically
analysing it.
| McHUGH J: | How does your argument fit in with the |
assumptions upon which section 64 of the JUDICIARY
ACT are based? It assumes that the Commonwealth
is not normally bound by statute, among other
things.
MR McINTYRE: That, of course, has its place in relation
to the Commonwealth but the importance of this
case is that it - and in particular this case
deals with a State Crown and in tenns of a special
leave application it also has some relevance to
all of the other State Crowns. So that the position of the Commonwealth may be set apart
by that special piece of legislation but it
does not preculde this Court from considering the
common law position because of its effect upon
the various States of the Commonwealth.
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| Bropho |
| DEANE J: | One problem you would face in seeking to reopen | |
| established authority would be what is involved | ||
| is essentially a principle of statutory | ||
| construction. | ||
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes. | |
| DEANE J: | And all parliaments in the country have acted for years on the basis that that principle | |
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| speculate about whether if the Court were to | ||
| overturn the principle, the logical result | ||
| would be that every parliament would enact an interpretation Act to have applied to its | ||
| statutes the principle on the basis of which | ||
| they had been enacted. |
MR McINTYRE: Well, of course, it is open to the parliament
to react as they will.
DEANE J: But that is a consideration that is relevant,
or that would be relevant to whether the Court
should, as it were, give leave to argue that
all these cases are involved and, as it were,take up the time which would be involved in that
argument.
| MR McINTYRE: | It may well be that the trend at least |
throughout the world is not heading in that
direction, Your Honour.
DEANE J: There is not much in this country to support a
trend,let alone the result for which you contend
though.
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes. | I was thinking of Scotland, the |
case of STRATHCLYDE V LORD ADVOCATE and there
seemed to be a very serious trend in the other
direction in the decision of the First Divisionof the Court of Session. It is a report which
I have available to Your Honours if you wish to
have a look at it.
| DEANE J: | Mr McIntyre, am I correct,reading your outline, |
| that the whole basis on which you seek leave really depends on the Court giving you leave to reopen the relevant decisions? | |
| MR McINTYRE: | Not if one accepts the view that in reality |
BRADKEN did not do anything other than follow
statements from BOMBAY and really at one level
did not analyse the decision and make an
independent and separate decision.
| DEANE J: | But that would not matter whether the decision |
| in BRADKEN is based on an independent analysis or acceptance of an analvsis made by another |
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court. The acceptance of the principle in its current form was basic to the decision.
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes, of course our argument runs that there |
have been waxings and wanings in relation to
the acceptance of that principle through the
history of the common law in Australia and
we say that, as in our outline, there are a
number of cases decided before BOMBAY which
clearly went in the opposite direction.
| DEANE J: | Can I put it to you differently: would it be |
| accurate to say that the question whether you | |
| should be allowed to reopen the relevant | |
| decisions would be of very great importance | |
| in any appeal? |
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes, that would be so. | Does Your Honour |
want me now to develop that argument?
| DEANE J: | Mr McIntyre, one matter that is going through | |
| our minds is that in one sense it may be | ||
| undesirable for this Court as presently constituted to deal with a leave application that turns to a very large extent on the question | ||
| whether leave should be given to reopen existing | ||
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| involved in that question would be for this | ||
| Court to be reconstituted by five Justices | ||
| who could really deal with the leave application | ||
| in the context of their views on that point. relation to that? It would mean the matter | ||
| being stood down until later in the week. | ||
| MR McINTYRE: | No, there is no difficulty with that, |
Your Honour. I probably should not leave it without saying that, of course, we would be
looking in any appeal to deal with the question
of the proper rule or statutory interpretation
and how it was applied in this case. But, as Your Honour has said, that may be a matter
which -
DEANE J: Whether you are going to be allowed to reopen
existing authority may well in the event determine
the outcome of this application for leave.
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes. | I have no problem with Your Honour's |
suggestion.
| TOOHEY J: | Mr McIntyre, are there any orders at all relating |
to this matter that are in existence, other than
the order made by the Master?
| MR McINTYRE: | No, Your Honour. | The result of the Master's |
decision was to strike out the statement of claim
of the plaintiff's which was a claim seeking
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declarations and injunctions to prevent work.
That was then struck out and the action ceased.
| DEANE J: | Somewhere in the papers I saw that an undertaking, |
| or an assurance had been offered that steps would be taken to amend the Act by adding a provision | |
| that did bind the Crown. | |
| MR McINTYRE: | Yes. |
| DEANE J: | What happened to that? |
| MR McINTYRE: | That was an undertaking which was given by |
the Crown to the plaintiffs, not to the court.
An argument was considered as to whether it then resulted in the appeal before the Court of Appeal being hypothetical. The Court of Appeal took the view that it was an anpeal
as of right and that it was a matter of some
substance and proceeded with the appeal. The historical position is that nothing more has
happened to my knowledge in relation to the -
DEANE J: Because y~ur client effectively rejected it?
| MR McINTYRE: | Did not accept the undertaking, that is so. |
| The undertai<ing, of co1:1rse, in the widest |
sense,was an undertaking given by the Premier
to the Prime Minister that legislation would be
enacted and that the government would comply
with the legislation in the meantime and that
is now the subject of other proceedings. But
there has been - as I think the Court of Appeal
took the view that unless we were in a positionwhere there was draft legislation or some more
concrete manifestation of that intention that we were entitled not to proceed as though the
undertaking was of any benefit EO- us.
| DEANE J: | Could I finally ask you are there any |
| extraordinary considerations of urgency relating to this matter if this Court were to embark | |
| upon it? | |
| MR McINTYRE: | Not in relation to this particular matter, |
as I understand it.
| DEANE J: | Mr Solicitor, you have heard what has passed | ||
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| ask your reaction to the suggestion that | |||
| perhaps the matter should be stood down in | |||
| the list to come before a Bench of five later | |||
| in the week. | |||
MR PARKER: |
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had to fall out of the list and wait to come
into some other list later in the year. If
it can be heard in this list we would have
no difficulty at all.
DEANE J: It seems to me that if there is a serious
effort to seek leave to reopen existing
decisions that there is a lot to be said
for the view that if possible that question
should be dealt with in the leave application,
not only because of the effect it will have
on the leave application but if it can be
put out of the way one way or the other it
makes the job of the parties, if leave is
eventually granted, a lot easier in termsof the appeal.
:tvfR PARKER: Indeed, sir, and the value of a court of
five sitting over a three is emphasized by the fact that it is not just BRADKEN
but there are decisions going a long way
back in the history of the Court that haveall been to the one direction so that a
lot of judicial thought has to be considered.
| TOOHEY J: | Mr Solicitor, if that course were followed |
and the application for special leave were
refused, well that would be the end of the
matter. If the application were granted, is there
then any sense of urgency attaching to the
hearing of the substantive appeal?
:tvfR PARKER: There is, if it please the Court. There are
other matters pending. Delay is in the interests
of the applicant against the interests of the
respondents in a number of aspects, hence my
corrnnents earlier that we would be concerned
if this matter fell out of this list altogether.
TOOHEY J: Yes, but retaining it in the list does not
necessarily take it beyond the application for special leave in itself.
| :tvfR PARKER: | I appreciate that, sir. |
TOOHEY J: That is what prompted my question to you
about the hearing of a substantive appeal if
the matter got that far.
| :t1R PARKER: | I would respectfully suggest that the hearing |
of the substantive appeal is not likely to be
a lengthy matter if leave were granted because
the range of issues is fairly confined.
DEANE J: Well, if leave were granted to appeal but leave
to reopen existing decisions were refused?
| :tvfR PARKER: | That would be very brief. |
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| DEANE J: | What do you anticipate by "very brief"? |
| MR PARKER: | I would have thought the matter could be |
fully argued within an hour.
DEANE J: That is on the question of statutory construction?
| MR PARKER: | Yes. |
| DEANE J: | By that you mean 20 minutes for your side? |
MR PARKER: Certainly, perhaps even a quarter of an hour.
| DEANE J: | I see. |
| TOOHEY J: | But if leave were granted on the basis that |
existing authorities were to be reviewed then
it is hard to see that it would not be a fai~ly
substantial exercise. ·
| MR PARKER: | Except that~I would have thought that |
virtually the whole of the ground about the
merit of the authorities and that point of
principle would have been covered in the leave
application so that there would not be, I would
have thought, a great deal more to be said about
the merits. It may be I wrongly anticipate -
| DEANE J: | Can I ask you this final question_ | |
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| be any difficulty in your being ready to use your 20 minutes in the event that the Court | ||
| was of the view that the standing authorities should not be reopened but that it was appropriate to go on and deal with the question of construction | ||
| that would remain? | ||
| MR PARKER: | No, we are fully prepared for that now, if it |
please the Court.
| DEANE J: | I am not suggesting it is a possible course, but |
that is a course that you would press for if it
were available.
MR PARKER: If it please the Court.
| DEANE J: | Mr McIntyre, what do you say about the suggestion | |
| that if at the end of the day you were not allowed | ||
| to reopen existing decisions, assuming that the | ||
| Court adhere to its -current view that you need | ||
| leave to argue that they are wrong, what do | ||
| you say to the suggestion that the other matters | ||
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| allows you 40 minutes. | ||
MR McINTYRE: | It would surpriae me to be more long-winded than the Solicitor-General but it is quite | |
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when essentially the same matters were argued
before the Court of Appeal it took a little
longer than an hour. My learned friend suggests not. Perhaps an hour or an hour and a half.
| DEANE J: | I see, | thank you. | The Court will take a short |
adjournment to consider the course it will
adopt in this matter.
AT 10.50 AM SHORT ADJOURNMENT
UPON RESUMING AT 11.05 AM:
| DEANE J: | Mr McIntyre, Mr Solicitor, we will stand this |
| matter down until the end of the list today | |
| and we will say not before 2.30, when the | |
| matter will come on before a Bench of five. | |
| MR McINTYRE: | May it please the Court. |
AT 11.06 PM THE MATTER WAS ADJOURNED
UNTIL LATER THE SAME DAY
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