Agombar & Ermans

Case [2021] FCCA 1842


FEDERAL CIRCUIT COURT OF AUSTRALIA

Agombar & Ermans [2021] FCCA 1842

File number: MLC 2591 of 2020
Judgment of: JUDGE O'SHANNESSY
Date of judgment: 11 August 2021
Catchwords: FAMILY LAW – section 102NA – cross-examination of parties scheme – where father seeks representation under section 102NA – where mandatory provisions do not apply – courts discretion – orders made
Legislation: Family Law Act 1975 (Cth), ss 102NA, 102NB
Cases cited:

Middleton & Redmond [2021] FCCA 316

Owen & Owen [2020] FamCA 90

Number of paragraphs: 19
Date of hearing: 18 November 2020
Place: Melbourne
The Applicant: Appeared In Person
Counsel for the Respondent: Mr D Carne
Solicitor for the Respondent: Ryan Carlisle Thomas

ORDERS

MLC 2591 of 2020
BETWEEN:

MR AGOMBAR

Applicant

AND:

MS ERMANS

Respondent

ORDER MADE BY:

JUDGE O'SHANNESSY

DATE OF ORDER:

18 NOVEMBER 2020

THE COURT ORDERS THAT:

1.The final hearing listed to commence on 30 November 2020 be vacated.

2.Pursuant to section 102NA(1)(c)(iv) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) ("the Act"), section 102NA(2) of the Act applies to any future cross-examination in these proceedings and IT IS REQUESTED THAT Victoria Legal Aid provide assistance to the Applicant under the cross-examination scheme.

3.The proceedings be adjourned to 2 June 2021 at 10.00am for Final Hearing before Judge McGuire (with an estimated hearing time of two days) at the Federal Circuit Court of Australia at Melbourne.

4.The party responsible for the payment of any fee including a setting down or hearing fee pay or cause to be paid such of the fees as shall be payable by that party in accordance with, and within the time specified in, the Family Law (Fees) Regulation 2012.

AND THE COURT NOTES THAT:

A.Pursuant to order 2 hereof, the Applicant do all acts and things necessary to make an application to Victoria Legal Aid for funding under the Commonwealth Family Violence and Cross Examination of Parties Scheme to enable his legal representation at Final Hearing.

B.The relevant application referred to in Notation A hereof is available to the parties at 121 of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) makes it an offence, except in very limited circumstances, to publish proceedings that identify persons, associated persons, or witnesses involved in family law proceedings.

IT IS NOTED that publication of this judgment under the pseudonym Agombar & Ermans is approved pursuant to s.121(9)(g) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth).

REASONS FOR JUDGMENT

JUDGE O’SHANNESSY

BACKGROUND

  1. On 18 November 2021 I made an order pursuant to section 102NA of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) (‘the Act’) and reserved my reasons.  These are those reasons.  These proceedings concern the child X who is now aged 8.  The Applicant Father is Mr Agombar (‘the Father’) and the Respondent Mother is Ms Ermans (‘the Mother’). 

  2. The issue that came before me on 18 November 2020 was solely whether a section 102NA of the Act order should be made preventing the Father from cross-examination pursuant to the scheme of that section.  The matter was…

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CaseChat Overview and Summary

In the matter of MLC 2591 of 2020, Mr Agombar (the Applicant) and Ms Ermans (the Respondent) appeared before Judge O'Shannessy. The dispute concerned family law proceedings, and the court was required to make orders regarding the upcoming final hearing and the Applicant's legal representation.

The primary legal issue before the court was how to accommodate the Applicant's desire for representation under the Commonwealth Family Violence and Cross Examination of Parties Scheme, while simultaneously ensuring the final hearing, scheduled to commence on 30 November 2020, was not prejudiced. This presented a conflict between the Applicant's need for funding and the court's need to manage its list.

Judge O'Shannessy determined that the requirements of section 102NA(1)(c)(iv) of the *Family Law Act 1975* (Cth) were satisfied, exercising discretion to apply section 102NA(2) of the Act. This provision prohibits parties from cross-examining each other personally. Consequently, the court requested Victoria Legal Aid to provide assistance to the Applicant under the cross-examination scheme, thereby facilitating his legal representation at the final hearing. The proceedings were adjourned for a final hearing on 2 June 2021. The court also noted that Victoria Legal Aid had since advised that the Applicant had been appointed representation under the scheme.

Orders

Orders of the court

MLC 2591 of 2020

BETWEEN:

MR AGOMBAR

Applicant

AND:

MS ERMANS

Respondent

ORDER MADE BY:

JUDGE O'SHANNESSY

DATE OF ORDER:

18 NOVEMBER 2020

THE COURT ORDERS THAT:

1. The final hearing listed to commence on 30 November 2020 be vacated.

2. Pursuant to section 102NA(1)(c)(iv) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) ("the Act"), section 102NA(2) of the Act applies to any future cross-examination in these proceedings and IT IS REQUESTED THAT Victoria Legal Aid provide assistance to the Applicant under the cross-examination scheme.

3. The proceedings be adjourned to 2 June 2021 at 10.00am for Final Hearing before Judge McGuire (with an estimated hearing time of two days) at the Federal Circuit Court of Australia at Melbourne.

4. The party responsible for the payment of any fee including a setting down or hearing fee pay or cause to be paid such of the fees as shall be payable by that party in accordance with, and within the time specified in, the Family Law (Fees) Regulation 2012.

AND THE COURT NOTES THAT:

A. Pursuant to order 2 hereof, the Applicant do all acts and things necessary to make an application to Victoria Legal Aid for funding under the Commonwealth Family Violence and Cross Examination of Parties Scheme to enable his legal representation at Final Hearing.

B. The relevant application referred to in Notation A hereof is available to the parties at https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/commonwealth-family-violence-and-cross-examination-of-parties-scheme.

Section 121 of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) makes it an offence, except in very limited circumstances, to publish proceedings that identify persons, associated persons, or witnesses involved in family law proceedings.

Background

Background to the litigation

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Evidence

Evidence Before The Court

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Decision

Reasons for decision

The Father wished to be represented under the scheme but also did not want to prejudice the listing of the final hearing. Those simultaneous mutually inconsistent propositions needed to be wrestled with. CONCLUSION Balancing those matters I determined pursuant to section 102NA(1)(c)(iv) that the fourth limb of the third branch was satisfied in the exercise of my discretion and made the order that section 102NA(2) applies (which prohibits cross examination by the parties of each other personally) and requested Victoria Legal Aid to fund the Father’s representation under the cross examination scheme. The proceedings were adjourned for final hearing on 2 June 2021 before Judge McGuire, as he then was. The matter has since been re-listed before Judge Davis with that final hearing to be heard on 11 October 2021. Victoria Legal Aid have since advised that the Father has had representation appointed under the scheme.

Ratio Decidendi

Legal Principle Established

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